Question regarding Weaver.

[19HALO71]

Let's say that Weaver goes 12-10 with a 4.25 ERA.

 

Would you offer him an extension or would you let him walk? If you would offer him an extension, how long would you go and for how much?

 

As much as it pains me, I would let him walk.

 

Go Halos!!!

[mulwin444]

I think there is no question you let him walk if he still wants to pitch next season.  Unless his fastball magically goes to 88-90 MPH this season, there is too much risk.  I think he retires, though, and the Angels should see if he has an interest in coaching at all.

[stormngt]

I think there is no question you let him walk if he still wants to pitch next season. Unless his fastball magically goes to 88-90 MPH this season, there is too much risk. I think he retires, though, and the Angels should see if he has an interest in coaching at all.

Doesn't have to increase that much does it? Wouldn't he be a dominant pitcher if he consistently pitched 85mph?

[laagamer]

Well...does he win the Cy Young this year?

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

Not at 20M per! 

 

If he wants to take a 8-10M plus incentives deal sure! But, that is a huge pay cut for your aging star who very well may like to pitch more and I don't believe his competitiveness will allow him to take a 25-50% pay cut and due to his history here and that would be great on the business side. But, shitty on the personal side and what Weaver has meant to this organization.

 

However, with that being said. You tell him you want him to be a part of the Org long term and see what you both can work out. Maybe, a playing salary and then personal services contract long term that would not go against the Budget.

[yk9001]

Before we all start sucking each other's dicks (to quote The Wolf) lets wait to see that 82 mph heater during the summer months.

 

that said, what he's pulled off thusfar has been incomprehensible.

[bloodbrother]

Love Weav but I don't see any way you re-sign him to another deal after this year

[RallyPanda]

Let's just pray he goes the Tim Salmon route rather than the Garret Anderson route! (retire an Angel rather than embarrassing himself by playing another year or two for another team at a poor level) Dude is toast, he's never gonna make the All Star team ever again, he's never gonna win a Cy Young, this team won't be winning the World Series anytime soon, he has enough money saved up and he's a local guy.

 

WHAT ELSE IS LEFT TO PROVE?JUST RETIRE, BRUH!

Edited April 22, 2016 by HighDesertHaloFan

[Blarg]

Not at 20M per!

If he wants to take a 8-10M plus incentives deal sure! But, that is a huge pay cut for your aging star who very well may like to pitch more and I don't believe his competitiveness will allow him to take a 25-50% pay cut and due to his history here and that would be great on the business side. But, shitty on the personal side and what Weaver has meant to this organization.

However, with that being said. You tell him you want him to be a part of the Org long term and see what you both can work out. Maybe, a playing salary and then personal services contract long term that would not go against the Budget.

You can no longer pen a personal services contract for an active player.

[Second Base]

Like Fozzi Bear, wakka wakka wakka.

This is Weav's last season in an Angels uniform. May be his last season period.

[Stranded in Texas]

Can't say now. It all depends how well he pitches this year. Weaver looked really good against the White Sox yesterday and really good against Texas in his first start. He already took one hometown discount to stay with the Angels and I think he will take another one. If he is effective this year I have no problem keeping him around. 

[Stranded in Texas]

Let's just pray he goes the Tim Salmon route rather than the Garret Anderson route! (retire an Angel rather than embarrassing himself by playing another year or two for another team at a poor level) Dude is toast, he's never gonna make the All Star team ever again, he's never gonna win a Cy Young, this team won't be winning the World Series anytime soon, he has enough money saved up and he's a local guy.

 

WHAT ELSE IS LEFT TO PROVE?JUST RETIRE, BRUH!

 

You are nuts. From 2008 to now Weaver has had one bad season, 2014. Other than that he was been a really reliable starter that has provided 200 + inning with a sub 4.00 ERA every season since 2008. 

[QuinlansMinion]

Yes because hes Cy Young with the rock pile

[zenmaster]

No thanks. He's been an awesome Angel for a long time but his time has come.

[Troutstanding]

You are nuts. From 2008 to now Weaver has had one bad season, 2014. Other than that he was been a really reliable starter that has provided 200 + inning with a sub 4.00 ERA every season since 2008. 

2015 was Weaver's only ineffective season since he began his MLB career in 2006. 

[Angels#1Fan]

There is no way Weaver should be resigned.

 

What if Weaver (who is only 33) goes 13-9 or 11-10 with a 4.00 era in 150+ innings this year?

 

Would you still think he shouldn't be resigned? 

Edited April 22, 2016 by Angels#1Fan

[Angels#1Fan]

2015 was Weaver's only ineffective season since he began his MLB career in 2006. 

 

For some here that is enough to call for his head and demand he retire for the good of the team.

[Jason]

He may be "serviceable" this season but I think his regression will continue. I hope I'm wrong though

[Angels#1Fan]

This "situation" regarding Weaver will eventually resolve itself. If he's not effective then he will pitch himself out of the rotation at some point, however if Weaver continues to be average or better he'll finish the season in the rotation which is how it should be.

 

As far as next year goes, if I were king of the Angels, I'd let his performance dictate whether he should be resigned or not. What I wouldn't do is to let one bad season cloud my judgement on a player that has been an asset to the team for 11 years. If Weaver repeats 2015 then I'd have to say goodbye but I wouldn't make that decision in April. ymmv

[Docwaukee]

Weave's avg velo is still down almost 1-2mph from last year overall.  Maybe he will bump up again, but he actually peaked in around mid to late may through mid june last year and then started to slowly tail off.  

 

His last start where everyone was so excited about his velo had him at 83.5 avg.  That would have been his second lowest of last season.  

 

So weave would call me a hater, but I just can't imagine how a 3.63 k/9, 2.6 bb/9, and 1.56 hr/9 is going to amount to anything but sheer disaster over the course of the season.  

 

Love Weave, but it's full on kev's mom if anyone thinks he's gonna be able to do that and maintain a 3.12 era.  If he didn't it would be the most miraculous season ever.  

[LAAFANofLA]

Weaver's real haters come from Seattle and Detroit, not because of his velocity.

[Troll Daddy]

The know it alls here wanted Weaver released. Somehow I believe they're anxiously waiting for a Weaver meltdown but they wil never admit to it.

[Angel Oracle]

If they can't find quality RHP to go with Richards, who knows?

[Oldschooler]

Weaver is a baseball player, all players age and lose their stuff. He has been paid very well and played very well, but it is time to go younger and cheaper. The Angels need plan ahead and start using their money better. Pujols also was once great but those years are over, he is not worth $20+M a year and does not and will not play up to his pay ever again. He is a proud man but is he proud enough to say good bye before fans only remember him as he is now?