LAT, OCR: Pic N Save Arte Speaks from his Boat

[tdawg87]

“If we had a player that we felt was the right guy, we would probably go through it,” Moreno said. “Right now, economically, it doesn’t fit. … You really have to look at 2017 and 2018 and beyond.

 

 

So much for investing or caring about this team for 2016. At least he's being honest about it and not trying to sugarcoat things and sell us on 2016 being a contending year. Thanks for that, I guess

 

In 2017 and 2018 and beyond, we still have a gigantic gaping hole in LF. You know what could solve that?

[gotbeer]

BTW.  There are reports that the Rams are probably going to stay in St Louis.  A lot of money is being added to the kitty for the stadium there. 

 

Kroenke sells the Rams, buys the Angels, and moves them to Inglewood.  Just a scenario to add to the Moreno going to cash out possibilites.

[nando714]

BTW. There are reports that the Rams are probably going to stay in St Louis. A lot of money is being added to the kitty for the stadium there.

Kroenke sells the Rams, buys the Angels, and moves them to Inglewood. Just a scenario to add to the Moreno going to cash out possibilites.

Or arte is going to buy that land.

What is kroenke going to need it for?

[Ohtaniland]

[Hollyw00d]

I dont give two s***s about arte's boat

[ettin]

Hopefully they trade Trout so he can join a winning franchise.

 

We can't even do this because no one has enough high quality players and prospects to pay his acquisition price!!!! Goddamit Arte!!!!!

[tomsred]

This is the sentence that jumps out to me:
 
“When you start looking at seven-year deals, they’re tough. You really stretch the franchise out. If there’s a mistake or injury and it doesn’t work out, it really hinders what you’re trying to accomplish.”
 
Part of me still thinks that if these guys reduce their demands to 4 or 5 years, Arte might suddenly become a player.  I can see Upton and Cespedes trying to piggyback off of Heyward's 8 year deal, partly because they think they have just as good a skill set as Heyward, but they don't really.  And the whole deal with Davis is rediculous, I think he had a terrific deal in hand with Baltimore, maybe he will get lucky and someone will way overpay, but I have some serious doubts about that.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Didn't we see this whole scenario in the movie Major League?

Oh wait. They won.

[ABC]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/la-sp-angels-moreno-shaikin-20151217-story.html

 

 

The Dodgers drew a financial line in the sand, and the pitcher who put up the best earned-run average of the last 20 years is gone.

 

Greinke also put up a .343 slugging percentage. The Angels' left fielders put up a .317 slugging percentage, the worst of any major league team at that position.

 

The current asking prices for Cespedes, Gordon and Upton include contracts from five to seven years, Moreno said.

 

 

 

The winter is not over in Anaheim, but the winter appears cold and bitter. The Angels will pay $24 million to a left fielder next season — Hamilton, whom they will subsidize as he plays the position for the Texas Rangers.

 

The two guys the Angels would platoon there if the season started today? Nava and Gentry — two more guys outslugged by Greinke last season.

[ABC]

By JEFF MILLER / STAFF COLUMNIST

 

Owner Arte Moreno, just before serving as grand marshal for a Christmas boat parade in Newport Beach, used the festive occasion to give the team’s fans a steaming lump of coal.

 

“At the end of the day, it really gets down to economics,” explained Moreno, who, economically speaking, still owes Josh Hamilton more than $40 million.

 

But signing Hamilton was his mistake, and now he’s asking the Angels fans to pay for it? Good luck with that stance.

 

I can understand why they’d be feeling less than jolly today, less than understanding of Moreno’s reluctance to surpass a luxury tax threshold that, literally, is his problem, not theirs. He’s the one who created this mess.

 

Who knows? Maybe the fans will show their disgust in a meaningful way this time and refuse to buy another three million tickets next season.

 

http://www.ocregiste...no-dodgers.html

 

Edited December 17, 2015 by CF8

[ABC]

Jeff Fletcher â€@JeffFletcherOCR  3h3 hours ago

Updated Angels luxury tax spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q7dlNaSqB4vip6QD88MCaahpPjiZrS7dgOam_TrElLg/pubhtml â€¦

 

 

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[ukyah]

 We really like Greinke and Price … Any of those [outfielders], you’d like to have … but it’s the economics.”

 

 

 

don't say that, if you're going to keep saying this,

 

If we had a player that we felt was the right guy, we would probably go through it,

 

 

 

all of those outfielders are the right guy to varying degrees. don't say you'd go over for the right guy, then tell the right guy to take a hike 4 different times.

[NorCal Halo]

[Mark68]

I don't need Jason Heyward. I can get two Daniel Navas to give us the same production.

 

 

~Arte Moreno

[Angel Oracle]

Speaking about 7 year deals?

Yet he gave Pujols, a 32 year-old beginning to decline, a TEN year deal???????

[bloodbrother]

[QuinlansMinion]

Speaking about 7 year deals?

Yet he gave Pujols, a 32 year-old beginning to decline, a TEN year deal???????

Pujols is a latino star.  Its money well spent for, as you like to say "starry eyed Arte."

[Hollyw00d]

Hopefully the casual fans make their voices heard and don't show up to game next year.

Hurt this dbag where it really matters

[ABC]

 

By JEFF MILLER / STAFF COLUMNIST

 

Owner Arte Moreno, just before serving as grand marshal for a Christmas boat parade in Newport Beach, used the festive occasion to give the team’s fans a steaming lump of coal.

 

“At the end of the day, it really gets down to economics,” explained Moreno, who, economically speaking, still owes Josh Hamilton more than $40 million.

 

But signing Hamilton was his mistake, and now he’s asking the Angels fans to pay for it? Good luck with that stance.

 

I can understand why they’d be feeling less than jolly today, less than understanding of Moreno’s reluctance to surpass a luxury tax threshold that, literally, is his problem, not theirs. He’s the one who created this mess.

 

Who knows? Maybe the fans will show their disgust in a meaningful way this time and refuse to buy another three million tickets next season.

 

http://www.ocregiste...no-dodgers.html

 

 

 

[Stradling]

CF8, dude you have too much time on your hands, that and I am jealous because trying to post pics on here literally kills me.

[ABC]

My posts take a few seconds. You're writing long narratives. Finding and posting a pic is simple.

 

I don't have the will to write paragraph after paragraph here because AW is an outlet for me. I give massive effort to my work and then give my concentration a break. Few people even read a post beyond two or three lines. But pictures...

[Angel Oracle]

Pujols is a Latino FORMER star.

He's been nothing more than say Mike Napoli since 2012 (save for # of games played).

At least Napoli reached base often enough. 

[Mark68]

Sleeping like a baby.

 

Reminds me a little of Emperor Nero.

[Mark68]

You're a mean one, Mr Grinch...

[yk9001]

Poor Angelswin fans didn't get their Arteclaus gifts this year.

 

The Arteclaus gifts the past few years have been so expensive, and so expertly wrapped.  They looked perfect when delivered in December.

 

Turns out there have been pretty much turds in the box once the beautiful wrapping is taken off.