OPS

[m0nkey]

What's up with people' s fascination with this stat? I get it can be useful, but is it the best number to look at? I really don't know, which is why I'm asking

[NrM]

What's up with people' s fascination with this stat? I get it can be useful, but is it the best number to look at? I really don't know, which is why I'm asking

 

nah, but it's easy to understand and better than your standard accumulative stats.

Edited August 11, 2015 by Poozy

[fan_since79]

Combination of ability to get on base and also hit for extra-bases, thus increasing the probability of scoring runs.

 

Adjusted OPS+ might be a better number, although I'm damned if I know how they calculate it.

Edited August 12, 2015 by fan_since79

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

I like it because it pisses off Miggy triple crown fans.

[Troutstanding]

OPS is a decent number to look at and good enough for most fans. There are slightly better statistics that attempt to measure similar categories, but they are more complicated and harder to conceptualize. 

[Mark68]

It's certainly a better stat than RBI.

[Docwaukee]

http://www.datascienceriot.com/top-5-metrics-that-make-batting-average-obsolete/kris/

[mrwicked]

What's up with people' s fascination with this stat? I get it can be useful, but is it the best number to look at? I really don't know, which is why I'm asking

basically some math nerd analyzed all the stats in baseball, and determined that:

1. runs are the most important stat. the more you score, the higher probability you have to win.

2. OPS has the highest correlation to the probability to produce runs, and thus wins. its just the combination of two statistics (on base percentage and slugging average). it's important (ie more valuable) because it doesn't ignore important stuff like walks (which have also been determined to have correlation with runs, and thus wins).

Edited August 12, 2015 by mrwicked

[Inside Pitch]

What's up with people' s fascination with this stat? I get it can be useful, but is it the best number to look at? I really don't know, which is why I'm asking

 

Getting on base and hitting the ball hard are considered the two biggest components to scoring runs.  So, a stat that combines OBP and SLG is attempting to zero in on those two things.   OPS+ is better because its weighted.   OPS is probably as popular as it is because it's pretty easy to calculate.

[maximus p]

Question:  Are the 2 parts of OPS equal, or is it better to have a higher SLG in the equation.

 

Who's better?

 

A:  350 OB/500 SLG

 

B:  400 OB/450 SLG

[hen3ry]

The two players would have identical OPS.  The acronym literally stands for OBP (on base percentage) Plus Slugging (percentage).

 

They'd both be .850

 

As far as who's better, they'd be similar but not necessarilly exactly equal, other things could be considered (what do the rest of the team look like - if you got a lot of sluggers, maybe you'd rather have this guy be an on-base guy).  OPS is a good stat, but it's a quick-and-dirty method of comparing players only.  Don't get obsessed by an 0.003 difference between a couple players as being definitive proof of who's better.

[eaterfan]

OBP is better. So choice B. It is not quite that simple, but in most instances and in a vacuum OBP is worth more.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Had to check the date to make sure this wasn't a bump from 2004... then I remembered that this board didn't exist in 2004...

[moccasin]

Baseball is about, "Which team advanced 4 bases before making 3 outs first?"

The ability to advance bases is expressed pretty well by SLG(=bases per AB), and not making outs is expressed almost perfectly by OBP(You either make an out or get on base every PA).

It has its holes, such as its inconsistency in putting productive outs into perspective, but it does a good job while being easy to understand and calculate.

[moccasin]

Had to check the date to make sure this wasn't a bump from 2004... then I remembered that this board didn't exist in 2004...

Fans in Japan still don't get it. All they talk about is BA and hits, and glorify free swinging singles hitters. Walks and XBH are still widely ignored and it drives me nuts.

[Hollyw00d]

Racist

[Ohtaniland]

Through 6 innings of tonight's game the Angels team OPS is 0.372

 

Does that help?

[stormngt]

Boy when Pujols and Trout slump this offreally sucks.

[stormngt]

3 run deficit should not be insurmountable. But this team just can't score.

[Amazing Larry]

Can someone explain batting average to me? It's the average number of bats you use in a season right?

[Troll Daddy]

I'm a little old fashion

 

RBI's

Runs

HR's

 

add the total of those three and you will find your best hitters

 

Trout

Harper

Donaldson

 

lead the pack

[Amazing Larry]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=prfRH01iG1U