Stupid Jerry Brown

[mp170.6]

He vetoed the bill which would have required police to get warrants to spy on you with drones.  The bill had broad bipartisan support. 

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/29/us-usa-california-drones-idUSKCN0HO08R20140929

 

[Blarg]

The Democratic party is the party of the people.

 

 

 

The people that want to take away all of your rights to privacy.

[arch stanton]

You shouldn't need a bill for that. They should need a bill to allow it. 

[Lhalo]

Quite the redundant title.

[mtangelsfan]

LOL @ California.

[Blarg]

In Montana they call government drones skeet.

[gotbeer]

Actually, I will take Jerry's side on this.  While I do believe that drones (which is a stupid loose term, since it seems like every remote controlled helicopter is called a drone now) should have a warrant on searches etc.  It would be stupid to handcuff police to use only in such a way.  Nightly, I hear helicopters flying overhead.  And nightly, somewhere in the area, the helicopters circle, since the LAPD use helicopters as assists on nearly everything at night.  From an alarm going off in a business, to suspicious people, to even car pullovers.  Now if you could replace noisy helicopters with quieter drones doing the same job, I'm all for it.  But that bill would have banned such uses since they would need a warrant to use.

[floplag]

i think the point here is that they are being used without warrants circumventing both privacy laws and due process.
i dont have an issue with them being used when warranted or permitted under the law, but using them when there is no reason to use them just looking for shit is as wrong as any of the wire tapping or other issues weve seen in recent years

[mp170.6]

Without the warrant requirement, expect the drones to be used by police for harassment of political foes -- all under the guise of official police business.   They already do this from the ground.  I'm sure they'll take it up a notch with drones. 

[HaloMagic]

I'm also with Brown. Outline a list of scenarios where a drone can be used and make sure it includes all of the current uses of helicopters. Do that and I'm on board. Don't include those and I'm out. We can make drone use to spy on citizens illegal without requiring a warrant for its use every time.