Who then if not Garza bolsters this staff?

[bloodbrother]

IMO, He'd be worse than a #4. He has a career ERA+ of 95, while pitching in one of the biggest parks and in the NL.

 

Not to mention he suffered a partially torn rotator cuff last season and rehabbed it rather than opting for surgery. I'm staying far away from Niese

[Docwaukee]

Hammel still by sleeper pick for a solid year. 

Cheap

Decent k and bb rate

Get him out of AL east bandbox hell. 

 

Give him a 1yr deal on the cheap with a vesting option if he makes a certain number of starts. 

[Stradling]

Less than 1%, that is just awesome. Hell the Marlins and Astros have a better than 1% chance of making the playoffs.

[Stradling]

Yea, I don't agree, but it doesn't matter. I would say with health we have a better chance than 20%.

[fan_since79]

How about Niemann? His numbers are pretty decent, and he's not too old.

[Richard]

Closest thing to a #3 on that list are Burnett, Jimenez, and ****face Santana.

 

Burnett won't sign we already know that, and the cost to sign Jimenez or Santana isn't worth it. 

 

Have to go with Arroyo if the money and years are right. He fits the need of the proven starter and should be a solid addition to a rotation that has only 2 pitchers who have experience throwing the 200ip we need(Of course Blanton is a 200ip, but isn't an option if the team is saying they're looking for SP for the right price).

[tdawg87]

Time to wash a few peanuts.

[Inside Pitch]

How about Niemann? His numbers are pretty decent, and he's not too old.

 

I think he's not expected back til mid-season.

[Inside Pitch]

Capuano and Jerome Williams?  With a provision in JW's contract that he not be allowed to pitch in Texas.

[HaloFan85]

From this list, it'd have to be either Arroyo, Maholm, or Burnett (if heathy and still wants to play), and the max deal for any would be identical to Blanton's contract of 2/15M.

[xboom28x]

Richards will have to be the #3 this season.

 

God help us with the #4 and #5.

[HaloFan85]

At this point, it wouldn't suprise me if they ended up re-signing Jerome Williams.

[Stradling]

xboom, why aren't you high on Santiago? He had a very solid ERA last year of 3.54. I realize he isn't a proven commodity, but from my understanding he has really good stuff.

[Hubs]

Arroyo is the best candidate. I'd try for 2 + a mutual option, but he wants three.

 

Hammel is a buy low. 

 

Or Maybe they think they're set with a front three of Weaver, Wilson, and Richards… and the 4 and 5 from Santiago, Skaggs, Shoemaker, LeBlanc, Mulder, Blanton.

 

I'd look at Jerome Williams now too...

[xboom28x]

xboom, why aren't you high on Santiago? He had a very solid ERA last year of 3.54. I realize he isn't a proven commodity, but from my understanding he has really good stuff.

 

It's just that, he isn't proven. Hasn't shown he can throw 200 IP. At this point, I am hoping Mulder can give us about 80IP. Then, when he breaks down, maybe Santiago (who I prefer as long relief/spot starter to begin the season) can pick up and maybe even become that 3/4 with Richards. This way, he'd have some gas in the tank still come playoff time. If we pull this rabbit out of course.

[nando714]

Richards will have to be the #3 this season.

Ya, season over

[VariousCrap]

1.  Acquire a #3 via trade.
2.  Bronson Arroyo (no more than a 2 year deal)

3.  Paul Maholm

[HaloNation]

Bolster ? Out SP looks horrendous. We only have 2 starters who are decent and have proven that they can deliver.

[floplag]

 

the problem i see from the realistic names on that list is that none of them are a true #3 at this point. 

Some of them might be, or could be.. but could also be more like 4 or 5s.

Are any of those guys you would really want to give the ball to in a playoff game?  To me thats kinda the measuring stick when i think about a 3

 

 

yes i think the playoffs are possible, whats the point of going after any of these guys if it isnt?

god the negativity of some here is astounding... you guys are fair weather fans at best and probably never heard of this team before 02 because you would have killed yourself back in the 80 and 90s...

 

[Mark68]

Acquire via trade.

 

I'm not opposed to taking a flyer on Baker.

 

Just please NO to Arroyo, Maholm, or anybody who costs a draft pick.

[Chuck]

Super fan sighting.

Listen, I am not a fair weather fan. The fact that I'm even posting on this board giving a #$@% after watching 4 complete seasons of crap proves otherwise. I love this team and I always will, I just hate how they have sucked lately. This old notion that "real fans" can't ever get frustrated and have to be blind optimists baffles me.

He's not a Super Fan. He's a FAN of the team he loves and is frustrated with other fans who bitch, moan and are not satisfied. He's happy with the team, much like a good majority of us are, but sees posts that say we don't have a chance at the playoffs, we suck, we need 2 more players to even think about contending blah blah.

You can be objective all you want if you're a local or national sports writer, but come April every team starts 0-0 and history proves that teams with a shit ton of payroll and paper championships don't win actual games from April-Sept, or through October.

Stop trying to tell me we suck or we're XYZ away from having a chance from being good or from being great. I've seen it all discussed prior to the season for over 30 years and we've always been wrong! Be excited about the team we have, whether it tickles your fantasy Angels team's balls or not.

/End Rant

[wopphil]

Arroyo makes the most sense, sadly. Maybe Maholm if the price is much cheaper.

[Scott34]

Arroyo on a one year deal

Or Yoon

Or take a flyer on Baker

Or trade Kendrick if anyone wants him.

[Docwaukee]

I'd like to see them add someone like Hammel as well as one of Baker or Niemann. 

[Chuck]

Arroyo makes the most sense, sadly. Maybe Maholm if the price is much cheaper.

Maholm has been pretty below average in the NL, I see him as a southpaw version of Blanton in the AL.