This team is finished

[IEAngelsfan]

Just a bit of career advice FTA, don't work as a counselor at any suicide hotline.

[instant karma]

I don't believe in absolutes (i.e. the angels will never win, the sun will never shine, etc.) 

 

If you know baseball, you know teams often under-perform for a year or for multiple years and then turn things around. 

 

For example:

• 2013:  The Red Sox this year
• 2010:  Texas after years of futility went to the  Series
• 2008:  Tampa Bay Rays went to the Series
• 2007:  Colorado went to the series
• 2005:  The White Sox won the series

Of course, we're still wating on the Cubs.  According to Tommy Lasorda, God told the Cubs not to anything until he gets back.

 

Your hypothesis shows emotion ruling over reason.

 

To suggest we have no chance of winning next year is ridiculous.  It's true--we may not win, but to say we have no chnace, seems extreme.  

 

We have an owner willing to spend money (sometimes making questionalble decsions).  We have quality players who probably will have improved numbers in 2014 (Trout, Calhoun, Conger, Pujols, Hamilton, etc.). 

 

We will have at least 1 new starting pither who will join a formidible staff of Weaver and Vargas (who probably won't each miss 8 weeks this year, CJ and a maturing Richards.   

 

If you have that little confidence in the Angels with 4 motnhs to go before opening day, what's your motivation for being on this web site?

[FireThemAll]

I sure did ruffle some feathers here lol. You guys keep believing in Arte Moreno, Mike Scioscia, and Mike Butcher...it's gotten us pretty far the last 4 years lol

[70runner]

We have quality players who probably will have improved numbers in 2014 (Trout, Calhoun, Conger, Pujols, Hamilton, etc.).

 

We will have at least 1 new starting pither who will join a formidible staff of Weaver and Vargas (who probably won't each miss 8 weeks this year, CJ and a maturing Richards.   

 

that's IT...we need more pithers!

 

Weaver & Vargas, CJ, Richards...it's one thing to be optimistic, but labeling this crew as formidable/formidible is a huge stretch

 

as to quality players Pujols & Hamilton having improved numbers...perhaps, but these two are well into their sunsets with the probability of improvement diminishing rapidly

[Richard]

Franchise OVER

[Docwaukee]

I sure did ruffle some feathers here lol. You guys keep believing in Arte Moreno, Mike Scioscia, and Mike Butcher...it's gotten us pretty far the last 4 years lol

 

It will be fun if the halos win and you come back claiming that you knew they could if they made certain moves

[James]

I sure did ruffle some feathers here lol. You guys keep believing in Arte Moreno, Mike Scioscia, and Mike Butcher...it's gotten us pretty far the last 4 years lol

Hard to take anyone serious who overuses acronyms. No reason to even start this pointless thread. 

[YouthofToday]

My preliminary over/under right now is 83 games unless Arte is willing to pay the luxury tax. I also predict we sign a marginal free agent and forfeit our 1st round pick.

[tomsred]

I sure did ruffle some feathers here lol. You guys keep believing in Arte Moreno, Mike Scioscia, and Mike Butcher...it's gotten us pretty far the last 4 years lol

I'm glad you think you ruffled some feathers, more likely you puked up a few, LOL.

[fan_since79]

Wake me up when the 2018 season has ended. That's when Scioscia's contract expires and we can start fresh with a winning formula.

 

 

[Chuck]

Sorry, but I just can't be positive. You can't go 3 straight historically bad offseasons (Wells, Albert, Hamilton), then just all of a sudden turn things around. Arte isn't smart enough to have a good offseason. We're done for as long as Arte is owner. Bottom feeders. Astros will finish ahead of them in 2 years. Feel bad for Trout, has to suffer through this. At least for him he can go to the Yankees, Phillies, or Dodgers in 4 years and get out from underneath this mess Arte has created. Next 8 years with Albert Pujols will be a failure. I can't wait to watch our 40 year old 30 million dollar pinch hitter that can't hit or run. That will be fun.

 

Not looking good.

 

[Agalloch]

LOL

 

Just LOL

 

 

 

 

Really, even before you see what moves are to be made this offseason you give up? We could trade for Price and Kelly and sign Wilson and Balfour and would you still be calling the team finished?

[Season Over]

It's going to be hilarious when this thread gets bumped every time the Angels win more than 2 in a row next year.

[QuinlansMinion]

This team is far from finished.  We need some major upgrades, but I dont think were far away.  I still have confidence that Trout/Albert/Hamilton can be on of the best offensive forces in baseball when healthy.  I think a big question mark is what kind of production we are going to get from Howie and Trumbo moving forward, those 2 are going to be very important factors in the Angels success.

 

If we sign one more capable starter that can be a good number 3 or even 2, we could have a great rotation.  The bullpen could use at least 2 more good arms. 

[Punk]

I'm not giving up.

[Jay]

troll

[nate]

Probably a good idea to wait to see what happens between now and April before decrying that.

[Palomar]

_{How DARE Arte spend $$$ to try to improve the team.  Not everything always works as planned but that works both ways. NO ONE knows what is going to happen.  That is why the games are played.}

 

_{Of course I do realize what the original poster was trying to do but there really are people who only go with the sure winner to pump themselves up.}

Edited November 11, 2013 by Palomar

[Brandon]

I hope the OP gets banned. All of his posts are like this and suck. Now he is just trolling hoping to get a 10 pager.

[WallyWorld]

While I'm nowhere near ready to throw in the towel for next season and beyond, I do think the odds of success are relatively low.  I think a lot of posters on here are expecting Dipoto to pull a rabbit out of his hat this winter.  Comparisons to the Red Sox turnaround are dangerous, as theirs was much more about underperformance and injuries than it was lack of talent, and let's not forget they had the Dodgers bail them out of their awful contracts.  But their core players, including their rotation, were already on the roster (Buckholtz, Lester, Lackey, etc).  Angels have to count on players bouncing back (Pujols, Hamilton) AND have to find pitching talent.  I have hope that they can turn it around, but I recognize that's an uphill battle with not great odds.

[WallyWorld]

I hope the OP gets banned. All of his posts are like this and suck. Now he is just trolling hoping to get a 10 pager.

 

Right. "Your opinion differs from mine, therefore you should be banned."  

[yk9001]

I'm pretty negative but at least I wait til they start losing on the field.

 

The 2014 prospects still look better than the 2002 prospect during November 2001.

[Brandon]

Right. "Your opinion differs from mine, therefore you should be banned."  

 

Not quite, troll.

 

He's the dude that shows up to the party and talks about his divorce....constantly.

 

A lot of people have differing points of view that I'm glad they bring to the table.

 

This dude is the new R.Munkee.

[Blarg]

[Blarg]

Dammit, I can't remember why the underwear were important but I have to chuckle at the SuperNaps logo.