Holy *&%^.

[fan_since79]

2006 Obama: Raising debt limit BAD

2013 version: Raising debt limit GOOD

 

2008 Obama (on the campaign trail) Promise of NET spending cut

2009-13 version: Trillion-dollar deficits

 

2011 Obama: "You can keep your doctor. You can keep your healthcare plan. We will lower premiums an average of $2,500 per family."

2013 Obamacare: None of the above.

 

2008 Obama: Pledge to cut deficit in half by end of first term.

2013 version: Trillion-dollar deficits*

 

*Okay, they're projecting $700 billion for this year. Certainly not nearly a 50% reduction over Bush's deficits.

Edited October 15, 2013 by fan_since79

[mtangelsfan]

fan, I commend you for trying to make this about Obama's overall presidency.  An easy target for sure.  You continue to fail though in acknowledging that House Republicans literally changed the rules to help themselves to keep the government shutdown going.

[fan_since79]

The rules have always been there to enable the House to appropriate money as they saw fit. Just because they haven't done business like this recently doesn't mean they "changed  the rules".

 

It's time to cut back on the servings on the Democrats' dinner table. Time for the beast to stop gorging and live within its means.

Edited October 15, 2013 by fan_since79

[fan_since79]

From Forbes:

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2013/10/03/dont-believe-the-debt-ceiling-hype-the-federal-government-can-survive-without-an-increase/

 

Reaching the debt ceiling does not mean that the government will default on the outstanding government debt. In fact, the U.S. Constitution forbids defaulting on the debt (14th Amendment, Section 4), so the government is not allowed to default even if it wanted to.

 

In reality, if the debt ceiling is not raised in the next two weeks, the government will actually have to prioritize its expenses and keep its monthly, weekly, and daily spending under the revenue the government collects. In simple terms, the government would have to spend an amount less than or equal to what it earns. Just like ordinary Americans have to do in their everyday lives.

 

Once the reality of what hitting the debt ceiling means is understood, the important question is: can the government actually live with a balanced budget? How much money could it spend? Could enough spending be cut to live within a balanced budget? The answer is yes, the federal government could live with a balanced budget. ...

Edited October 15, 2013 by fan_since79

[Adam]

 

From Forbes:

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2013/10/03/dont-believe-the-debt-ceiling-hype-the-federal-government-can-survive-without-an-increase/

 

Reaching the debt ceiling does not mean that the government will default on the outstanding government debt. In fact, the U.S. Constitution forbids defaulting on the debt (14th Amendment, Section 4), so the government is not allowed to default even if it wanted to.

 

In reality, if the debt ceiling is not raised in the next two weeks, the government will actually have to prioritize its expenses and keep its monthly, weekly, and daily spending under the revenue the government collects. In simple terms, the government would have to spend an amount less than or equal to what it earns. Just like ordinary Americans have to do in their everyday lives.

 

Once the reality of what hitting the debt ceiling means is understood, the important question is: can the government actually live with a balanced budget? How much money could it spend? Could enough spending be cut to live within a balanced budget? The answer is yes, the federal government could live with a balanced budget. ...

 

 

Phew! No Smart and Final for me

[mtangelsfan]

when you are repeating house republicans or democrats verbatim, you are in trouble.

[Schildog]

i love an aw political melt down.

[Amazing Larry]

The government can run with a balanced budget but it would probably affect the 46 million americans on food stamps costing over $6 billion a month. Can you imagine the riots if the the EBT cards didn't work?

 

Time to grab the popcorn.

[Adam]

I'm moving to a place no one in their right mind would dare live.

 

Looking at a map, there is only one place so awful, no one would bother you.

 

Sydney, MT

[fan_since79]

The government can run with a balanced budget but it would probably affect the 46 million americans on food stamps costing over $6 billion a month. Can you imagine the riots if the the EBT cards didn't work?

 

Time to grab the popcorn.

 

We had a glimpse of that this weekend. EBT cards in a bunch of states didn't work, and when they finally did, some of them mistakenly had no limits. People with those no-limit cards emptied shelves at a Walmart before the government fixed the problem.

[Jay]

I'm moving to a place no one in their right mind would dare live.

 

Looking at a map, there is only one place so awful, no one would bother you.

 

Sydney, MT

 

They might make you get a job though

[mtangelsfan]

I'm moving to a place no one in their right mind would dare live.

 

Looking at a map, there is only one place so awful, no one would bother you.

 

Sydney, MT

 

Considering there is no such place, you are probably correct sir.

[St1ck]

Considering there is no such place, you are probably correct sir.

 

 

 

http://cityofsidneymt.com/

[mtangelsfan]

spelling stickboy, spelling. 

 

I know spelling isn't really important to Idahoans, but it is important to us Montanans.

[St1ck]

We aint good with the book learnin. 

[Crampknees]

I was painting cabinets all day and took a break and got depressed reading this.  Back to painting cabinets and hopefully I have something to put in them. 

[mtangelsfan]

air always fits in cabinets.

[Crampknees]

air always fits in cabinets.

Long as it isn't just hot air because that is all our government has for us.  

[Blarg]

Still here Adam.  I guess I stopped giving a Sh@t.  Screw it, now I just use Tarot cards and astrology for answers.

 

So I take it you miss the Nancy Reagan years.

[TobiasFunke]

It's been over 2 hours since fan has dodged the original issue. Patiently waiting for him to post another thing that has nothing to do with the original video.

Edited October 16, 2013 by TobiasFunke

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

However this ends it just proves how completely ****ing inept these elected officials are.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Catwhoshatinthehat

[red321]

Wait. Didn't Red say are debt was fake?

 

misquotes are awesome, all you have to do is drop "crisis" from the statement and suddenly it fits, well, I guess something

 

But I apparently was wrong, apparently we can create a debt crisis by electing some tea party patriots...job well done

[Adam]

I said "are" haha

[Hollyw00d]

They spent $600 million dollars on this website and it doesn't work. The government needs to get a refund from the software company.

 

And how can a website cost $600 million??? That doesn't seem right.

 

h

ey the government has to launder money, too.   just like every other criminal enterprise

[arch stanton]

Quid pro quo. Other than absolute essentials. Don't spend another dime for the next 2 weeks.