Shooting at Washington Navy Yard

[m0nkey]

12 reported dead

[St1ck]

sucks

[Scott34]

Awful.  Possible second suspect at large.

[Tank]

wow, the numbers have gone up dramatically since 7:30 this morning.

 

did they catch the first suspect? i had to laugh a little inside because they described him as a black male, bald, wearing black clothes, and they're running this description while showing in the background police officers who were black, bald, and wearing black.

[Jay]

Don't they have gun control in DC?

[Scott34]

wow, the numbers have gone up dramatically since 7:30 this morning.

 

did they catch the first suspect? i had to laugh a little inside because they described him as a black male, bald, wearing black clothes, and they're running this description while showing in the background police officers who were black, bald, and wearing black.

 

The first suspect is dead.

 

Apparently he's Aaron Alexis from Fort Worth.  Civilian contractor.

[TobiasFunke]

Don't they have gun control in DC?

If everyone had guns on the job this wouldn't have happened

[Amazing Larry]

The first suspect is dead.

 

Apparently he's Aaron Alexis from Fort Worth.  Civilian contractor.

Two first names. We should have seen this coming.

[gotbeer]

Poozy's old ass going to college gets 10x the posts of another mass shooting.

 

Guess that is about right.

 

That's because mass shootings are common.  Poozy actually finding a college that will let him in isn't.  

[LBHalos17]

That's because mass shootings are common.  Poozy actually finding a college that will let him in isn't.  

Funny!

 

Someone with a CCW could have ended this, before the number of victims got that high.  But, lets take more guns away from law-abiding citizens so we can't defend ourselves from real wack-jobs...

[TobiasFunke]

If everyone had guns on the job this wouldn't have happened

Right LB?

[fan_since79]

The first suspect is dead.

 

Apparently he's Aaron Alexis from Fort Worth.  Civilian contractor.

 

He had two previous incidents involving guns, yet also had a special security clearance. How does that happen??

Edited September 17, 2013 by fan_since79

[fan_since79]

There are 2,000 people still inside the Navy Yard. The authorities are bringing people out one at a time, still looking for a second shooter.

They hope to have everyone out by midnight.

[LBHalos17]

Right LB?

No.  It didn't prevent the Marine Barracks in Beirut from getting truck-bombed.  

 

The only way to "prevent" these incidents, is for friends, family, and co-workers to recognize illness in these mass-murderers.  This guy sounds like he was a good candidate for prevention.

 

Armed, qualified people are certainly able to interrupt these mass-shootings though.

[TobiasFunke]

No.  It didn't prevent the Marine Barracks in Beirut from getting truck-bombed.  

 

The only way to "prevent" these incidents, is for friends, family, and co-workers to recognize illness in these mass-murderers.  This guy sounds like he was a good candidate for prevention.

 

Armed, qualified people are certainly able to interrupt these mass-shootings though.

"But, lets take more guns away from law-abiding citizens so we can't defend ourselves from real wack-jobs..."

[arch stanton]

It's a good thing we didn't spend the past 12 years creating tens of thousands of potential PTSD candidates who are trained in weapons and urban combat.

[TobiasFunke]

When I saw on the news the issues this guy has had with the law I was like, "fuuuuuuuuuuck"

[gotbeer]

Alexis had access card for Navy Yard; investigators look for motive

 

Looks like he shot his way in, with the first victim being a police officer.

[Glen]

He had two previous incidents involving guns, yet also had a special security clearance. How does that happen??

 

 

I wonder about that too.  I work in a secured compound that requires a secret/special access clearance, and just a few months ago we had somebody fired (voluntary retirement) because of something much more minor than that.  How does somebody with a history keep a clearance?  Or maybe his clearance was revoked, who knows.  

Edited September 17, 2013 by Glen

[gotbeer]

Obama is not pleased.

 

FBI is reporting in the news conference that Alexis had a shotgun.  And a pistol from the dead police officer.  No AR15.

[katie]

I wonder about that too.  I work in a secured compound that requires a secret/special access clearance, and just a few months ago we had somebody fired (voluntary retirement) because of something much more minor than that.  How does somebody with a history keep a clearance?  Or maybe his clearance was revoked, who knows.  

On the news yesterday they said he may have used someone else's ID to get in.

[gotbeer]

I wonder about that too.  I work in a secured compound that requires a secret/special access clearance, and just a few months ago we had somebody fired (voluntary retirement) because of something much more minor than that.  How does somebody with a history keep a clearance?  Or maybe his clearance was revoked, who knows.  

 

From an article I read yesterday.  He was a subcontractor for a company that has a contract with the military or something like that.  Because he was a subcontractor for an outside firm, they can't dig as deep as a pure government position can.  The way they were describing it, government clearance would look at military history, and other things.  But a subcontractor can only see honorably discharged, and since no charges were filled in any of his gun things, those might not have shown up.  And I believe that it's illegal for companies to look into medical issues as a reason for hire.  

 

Not sure what his job was in the place.  For all we know, he could have been a janitor, so he had clearance to enter the building.  

[Tank]

When I saw on the news the issues this guy has had with the law I was like, "fuuuuuuuuuuck"

 

yeah, whatever measures were in place to keep a gun out of this guy's hands clearly failed. how do we prevent that from happening?

[St1ck]

yeah, whatever measures were in place to keep a gun out of this guy's hands clearly failed. how do we prevent that from happening?

 

 

 

Ban all crazy people. 

[Jay]

DC gunman obsessed with violent video games, reports say
 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/17/dc-gunman-obsessed-with-violent-video-games-reports-say/