The Halos need to be buyers at the deadline for SP but who?

[Scott34]

If we're not going to sell, then stand pat.  Or do something like Shuck/Calhoun for a similar long-reliever/SP.

[SoWhat]

I heard on MLB Network that discussions between the Cubs and Angels about Garza have already took place. They also said that big league players could be involved

[Ohtaniland]

Maybe we can get Greinke.........again.

[SoWhat]

I'd rather go after a guy like Carlos Villanueva. He was really solid when starting this year, the Cubs recently started stretching him out to start again

[DMVol]

I heard on MLB Network that discussions between the Cubs and Angels about Garza have already took place. They also said that big league players could be involved

Richards maybe?

[gotbeer]

Going off my last post.  But over the last few weeks, Downs and Blanton have shown a big improvement.  If someone inquires, the Angels have to really think about it and might even pull the trigger right?

[gotbeer]

Richards maybe?

 

So trade 1/2 of Garza for 5 seasons of Richards.  While I'm not high on Richards, who else do we have?  

[SoWhat]

This is from a sports producer for Fox in Chicago.

@ztwhite23: Rumors swirling that @Cubs Matt Garza could be traded, possibly today to @SFGiants or @Angels. Also hearing long term extension talk. #Cubs

[Scott34]

If we trade for Garza, I'm jumping off a bridge.

 

Also ztwhite23? Not buying it.

[Angel Oracle]

Maybe?

We already have one TJ surgery closer in waiting (Madson).   Do we really need two (The Beard)?

 

Just get Bourjos, Vargas, Coello, and either Madson or Burnett back during the next 2-4 weeks, and see what happens.  

No trades!

 

We already traded for a rental in July 2012, and look where that got them.

[SoWhat]

Idk. I doubt the guy is legit, but anyway we really don't match up with the Cubs at all. They want something we don't have, which is young pitching. It's pretty safe to say we won't trade for Garza.

[dicknanes]

We already have one TJ surgery closer in waiting (Madson).   Do we really need two (The Beard)?

 

Just get Bourjos, Vargas, Coello, and either Madson or Burnett back during the next 2-4 weeks, and see what happens.  

No trades!

 

We already traded for a rental in July 2012, and look where that got them.

But the difference is that he seems like he can throw. Maybe sign him to a heavily-incentive deal like Madson's? It would only cost us payroll, not anything from our worn down farm system. It doesn't seem like Madson will be throwing for us this year.

[HaloCory22]

I love him, but I could be on board for Bourjos/Richards etc. for Cliff Lee. If push comes to shove, that is probably the only pitcher I'd even attempt to go after. Just say no to Garza. I'd rather have Vargas/Hanson when healthy over him.

[Glen]

Iannetta for Garza.

[Angel Oracle]

Lee is 35 soon, I'd rather not acquire him.

 

Garza has had good and bad seasons, too inconsistent and the farm needs to be allowed to rebuild.  

[AZMike]

Iannetta for Garza.

Iannetta for Chatwood.

 

Maybe the Rox will let us take a mulligan on that whole situation...

[Brandon]

No they wont. They wont take the contract and they also want a top prospect or 2. otherwise they will keep him...

That's why I used the word inquire. I'm sure neither of us are in boardroom discussions and I'm merely speculating from talk radio and perusing the web.

[Angel Oracle]

I always thought Chatwood showed some good poise for a 21 year-old in 2011.

Given that we essentially traded him for a guy who walks and not much else and is mediocre defensively, that is a bad trade.

And now, Chatwood's control is getting better (18 BBs in 55 innings).

[Glen]

Lee is 35 soon, I'd rather not acquire him.

 

Garza has had good and bad seasons, too inconsistent and the farm needs to be allowed to rebuild.  

 

Garza is only inconsistent if you look at his W-L.  Never had an ERA above 4 (except his rookie year) and his WHIP has averaged 1.28.  Not bad, if you get him on the cheap (which I think we wouldn't be able to do because too many teams want pitching).

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/garzama01.shtml

[Ohtaniland]

Trade Blanton, Hanson, Madson and Burnett for prospects.

What do you mean no team would take these guys? We did.

[Angel Oracle]

Garza was durable from 2008-2011 (only a handful of missed starts in that time).

But he's only pitched in 27 games over the past year and a half (missing half of 2012, missing almost the first 2 months in 2013).    

That is always a concern.

 

He can be vulnerable to the HR ball (except for the one season allowing just 14), although the ERA has never been bad in any year.   He also can be vulnerable to bouts of wildness.

[Chimi]

No one is dumb enough to take on Lee's contract. Once his option vests (which it will), he will be owed $77.5 million over the next three years. On second thought, the Dodgers are probably dumb enough to take it.

[Brandon]

No one is dumb enough to take on Lee's contract. Once his option vests (which it will), he will be owed $77.5 million over the next three years. On second thought, the Dodgers are probably dumb enough to take it.

Yeah, in my initial post I did leave out how absurd his contract is moving forward.

[Angel Oracle]

Yep, cross me off the list of those wanting Garza.

No more rental trades!

[DMVol]

So trade 1/2 of Garza for 5 seasons of Richards.  While I'm not high on Richards, who else do we have?  

Didn't say I'd do it just threw out the name in response to SoWhat's reports....