Angels sign Adam Cimber (1 year, $1.65 million)

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[ScottM]

Much better idea than Garcia. I like this one.

[jsnpritchett]

Cimber had a pretty good run up until last year.  He missed a lot of '23 with a shoulder impingement.  For the amount of his contract, it's worth a shot to see if he can recover.

[Inside Pitch]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Cimber had a pretty good run up until last year.  He missed a lot of '23 with a shoulder impingement.  For the amount of his contract, it's worth a shot to see if he can recover.

They need to sign four more like this one and let them wash themselves out during ST/early in season.  To quote @Blarg RPs are flakes.

[totdprods]

I know these aren't earth-shaking, but I'm glad Minasian has brought in three relievers already. I firmly believed we needed almost an entire bullpen this winter, and while Kolarek, Garcia, and Cimber are far from guaranteeing we'll have a good bullpen in '24, it's cheap veteran arms with varying levels of positive indicators and/or track records that we need to round out the overall depth. 

Closer: Estevez
Optionable Set-up: Soriano/Joyce
Set-up: Garcia
Optionable depth: Herget/Wantz
LHP: Kolarek
Mid-Relief: Cimber
Long Relief: Suarez

Those 'roles' don't mean much, and obviously if Soriano and Joyce (and even Bachman or Silseth) are clicking all the young guns could push guys out, but I thought it was important we brought in as many arms as possible to push Herget and Wantz into AAA depth, and count on the high-octane young guns to occupy only one, maybe two, spots at most to open the year, purely to maintain good pen depth.

Seeing them add another vet reliever to push one of the Wantz/Herget and/or Soriano/Joyce slots either to AAA or further down the hierarchy would be a good move still. 

Edited December 7, 2023 by totdprods

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

They need to sign four more like this one and let them wash themselves out during ST/early in season.  To quote @Blarg RPs are flakes.

Yep.  I'm all for the bulk approach.

Curious to see who gets booted off the 40-man when Garcia and Cimber's deals are officially announced.  Someone needs to go.  Cabbage, maybe?

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Yep.  I'm all for the bulk approach.

Curious to see who gets booted off the 40-man when Garcia and Cimber's deals are officially announced.  Someone needs to go.  Cabbage, maybe?

Cabbage had interest from Asian teams, makes sense. Probably don't need all of Stefanic, Soto, and Paris. Wouldn't be bummed if Ingram or Rosenberg got the boot.

Real hard seeing Matt Thaiss having a spot still come ST, though I understand the need to hold him close. 

[tdawg87]

[Taylor]

20 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Cimber had a pretty good run up until last year.  He missed a lot of '23 with a shoulder impingement.  For the amount of his contract, it's worth a shot to see if he can recover.

This kind of thing worked out well another time.

[Hubs]

Hicks and/or Moore and the bullpen additions should be complete. I do expect some of the cost controlled depth to be traded (or cut), particularly Herget or Wantz or Suarez.

[Erstad Grit]

Wowsers he threw 77 innings the year before. Maybe that messed him up?

[totdprods]

9 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Hicks and/or Moore and the bullpen additions should be complete. I do expect some of the cost controlled depth to be traded (or cut), particularly Herget or Wantz or Suarez.

I know it’s kinda counter-intuitive, but I still think they should trade Estevez and see if they can recoup a guy or two they lost at deadline, then just sign another Estevez-type non-closer RP to the exact same deal to replace him. 

[Hubs]

Just now, totdprods said:

I know it’s kinda counter-intuitive, but I still think they should trade Estevez and see if they can recoup a guy or two they lost at deadline, then just sign another Estevez-type non-closer RP to the exact same deal to replace him. 

Yes.

[greginpsca]

40 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Cabbage had interest from Asian teams, makes sense. Probably don't need all of Stefanic, Soto, and Paris. Wouldn't be bummed if Ingram or Rosenberg got the boot.

Real hard seeing Matt Thaiss having a spot still come ST, though I understand the need to hold him close. 

Marte has no business being on the 40 man roster.

[jsnpritchett]

3 minutes ago, greginpsca said:

Marte has no business being on the 40 man roster.

He's not on the 40-man.  They signed him to a minor league deal.

[greginpsca]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

He's not on the 40-man.  They signed him to a minor league deal.

Yeah, that's right.

[greginpsca]

Just checked the 40 man. Warren  is the next man down.

[Turd Ferguson]

Cimber was tough for me to hit in the MLB the Show 23, so there's that.

[Angel Oracle]

Never been a big Ks guy, but had a solid career WHIP through 2022.

Stingy with HRs allowed through 2022 (20 in 278 innings)

Shoulder concerns are just that.

But if healthy, could be useful for 2024.

[totdprods]

I know this was tried by I think Eppler one winter, but I like Cimber because it’s a different look coming out of the pen. Having a mix of arms in release point and angle and velocity seems like a good recipe to start with. 

This is fine. It’s cheap. Still need one more legit relief arm at a minimum IMO.

[Angel Oracle]

13 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I know this was tried by I think Eppler one winter, but I like Cimber because it’s a different look coming out of the pen. Having a mix of arms in release point and angle and velocity seems like a good recipe to start with. 

This is fine. It’s cheap. Still need one more legit relief arm at a minimum IMO.

Probably replaces Herget?

Side arm delivery 

[Second Base]

Of the three bullpen acquisitions Perry has made, I'm thinking one out of three will actually make it the full season without getting DFA'd. 

That's just the reality of relievers. 

[BTH]

5 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

Curious to see who gets booted off the 40-man when Garcia and Cimber's deals are officially announced.  Someone needs to go.  Cabbage, maybe?

Warren makes the most sense IMO, since he’s gonna miss the first half of 2024.

Ingram, Rosenberg, Soto, Fletcher, Cabbage are on the fringes of the 40-man.

[Angelsjunky]