Your Angels Offseason Plan

[BTH]

Since @Stradling started a thread about Angels free agency predictions, I figured I’d start one asking what YOU would do this offseason for the Angels.

Roster Resource projects that they are $62M below their 2023 payroll and $73M below the first luxury tax threshold, so try and stay within those budgetary constraints.

Go…

[BTH]

Yoshinobo Yamamoto: 10/$250M

Nick Martinez: 3/$27M

Joc Pederson: 2/$24M

Matt Moore: 1/$8M

Tim Anderson: 1/$8M

Colin McHugh: 1/$4M

 

Rengifo (-$4.2M) to PIT for Dauri Moreta ($720k)

 

Rotation: Yamamoto, Sandoval, Detmers, Canning, Martinez

Bullpen: Estévez, Moore, Soriano, Moreta, Bachman, Joyce, McHugh, Anderson

Lineup: Schanuel (1B), Trout (CF), Drury (2B), Pederson (DH), Rendon (3B), Ward (LF), Moniak (RF), O’Hoppe (C), Neto (SS)

Bench: Stassi, Anderson, Adell, Thaiss

[notherhalo]

Trade Arte Moreno to the Las Vegas A's

 

A's get

- Owner who will spend, finally

- Tons of billboard opportunities

- No more trading good players at the deadline

- Buttercup + Salary Relief

 

Angels get

- Billy Beane

- Dont have to listen to Buttercup anymore

[Vegas Halo Fan]

58 minutes ago, notherhalo said:

Trade Arte Moreno to the Las Vegas A's

 

A's get

- Owner who will spend, finally

- Tons of billboard opportunities

- No more trading good players at the deadline

- Buttercup + Salary Relief

 

Angels get

- Billy Beane

- Dont have to listen to Buttercup anymore

As long as we get to keep Tarpy.

[Jason]

Lol, the Angels are not signing Yamamoto. He can get big money and good chances at winning with a lot of other clubs. 

[totdprods]

44 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lol, the Angels are not signing Yamamoto. He can get big money and good chances at winning with a lot of other clubs. 

It’s a what would you do, not a what will happen or what do you want to happen. 

Even if he isn’t likely to sign here, 10/$250m is absolutely realistic enough of an offer for a “if I were GM” post

[Jason]

3 hours ago, totdprods said:

It’s a what would you do, not a what will happen or what do you want to happen. 

Even if he isn’t likely to sign here, 10/$250m is absolutely realistic enough of an offer for a “if I were GM” post

I really do not like 10 year contracts but that’s what it takes these days. 

[Erstad Grit]

I was definitely wrong about Yu Darvish, but for me giving a 10 yr high money deal to someone with zero MLB success is far too risky. 

[AngelStew43]

15 hours ago, Jason said:

Lol, the Angels are not signing Yamamoto. He can get big money and good chances at winning with a lot of other clubs. 

I remember hearing that very same argument 6 years ago when we signed Ohtani.  Jason, I hope you get karma'ed. 

[Jason]

28 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

I remember hearing that very same argument 6 years ago when we signed Ohtani.  Jason, I hope you get karma'ed. 

I’m not sure having an opinion on a baseball free agent deserves karma but, ok. I’m always willing to eat crow though. 

[Fullmer17]

this is based off what I would do with a budget that comes in below the luxury tax:
 

Angels trade Adell/Kochanowicz/Paris to Cleveland for Shane Bieber and minor league reliever

Angels trade Carlos Estevez to Marlins for JT Chargois and minor league reliever Zack McCambley

Angels trade Tyler Anderson to cardinals for minor league 3b man Evan Mendoza

Angels trade Luis Rengifo and Jose Suarez to Diamondbacks for Drey Jameson

 

angels sign: 

Josh Hader to 5/110 deal

Kevin Keirmaier to 2/22 deal

Michael Wacha to 2/30 deal

Rhys Hoskins 2/30 deal

Yuki Matsui to 2/10 deal

 

sign Joey Wendle and Yonny Chirinos to cheap 1 year deals or minor league deals

 

Bieber, Sandoval, Wacha, Detmers, Canning/Jameson

Hader, Joyce, Chargois, Soriano, Matsui, Bachman, Silseth

Schanuel/Trout/Hoskins/Rendon/Drury Ward/ Moniak/Ohoppe/Neto

Keirmaier, Stassi, Fletcher, Wendle main guys off the bench

[Stradling]

Rengifo for Bieber

Sandoval and Moniak for Burnes

Ward for Glasnow

Sign Anderson and Neris

 

[Stradling]

Also, I am fully aware that my trades leave us without an outfield.  The guys I think I would like are Margot and Pham.  I have no idea the cost to acquire Margot and I don’t know the salary expectations of a guy like Pham.

[Erstad Grit]

24 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Rengifo for Bieber

Sandoval and Moniak for Burnes

Ward for Glasnow

Sign Anderson and Neris

 

In my opinion those trades are very angels lopsided.

[Stradling]

Just now, Erstad Grit said:

In my opinion those trades are very angels lopsided.

Tell MLB Trade Values that.  It is completely possible that those teams want young prospects in return. However 3 years of guys like Sandoval and Ward are more valuable than one year of a pitcher usually.  Hell Bieber’s trade value is about half of Moniak’s because you get one for one year and the other for 4 years.

[Stradling]

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator

[Angelsjunky]

I'd do very little. No big contracts, just a few minor signings to fill up the roster. Re-invest the money into the farm system. Tend the garden for a few years, see what grows.

 

[Angels 1961]

22 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I'd do very little. No big contracts, just a few minor signings to fill up the roster. Re-invest the money into the farm system. Tend the garden for a few years, see what grows.

 

I agree with most of this save money for next year. Make small signings this year to fill out roster and give young players a chance to develop more. 

[Stradling]

18 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I agree with most of this save money for next year. Make small signings this year to fill out roster and give young players a chance to develop more. 

Nothing prevents them from developing with signings this year. They aren’t signing an everyday SS, Catcher or 1b. 

[Erstad Grit]

5 hours ago, Stradling said:

Tell MLB Trade Values that.  It is completely possible that those teams want young prospects in return. However 3 years of guys like Sandoval and Ward are more valuable than one year of a pitcher usually.  Hell Bieber’s trade value is about half of Moniak’s because you get one for one year and the other for 4 years.

Well according to their numbers here is the Diamondbacks and Mariners trade. I don't buy into their evaluations.

 

 

[BTH]

5 hours ago, Stradling said:

Also, I am fully aware that my trades leave us without an outfield.  The guys I think I would like are Margot and Pham.  I have no idea the cost to acquire Margot and I don’t know the salary expectations of a guy like Pham.

Margot seems more like a salary dump; I can’t imagine the Rays get much in return for him.

I’d guess Pham probably gets 1-2 years at 10-12 million AAV max.

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Well according to their numbers here is the Diamondbacks and Mariners trade. I don't buy into their evaluations.

 

 

More times than not it’s pretty accurate. Also salary dumps are salary dumps. 

[Angels 1961]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

More times than not it’s pretty accurate. Also salary dumps are salary dumps. 

It's hard to factor in but depends on what they do with the money saved.

[Angels 1961]

4 hours ago, Stradling said:

Nothing prevents them from developing with signings this year. They aren’t signing an everyday SS, Catcher or 1b. 

I agree halos will have a few 1 year deals on position players and maybe longer deals on pitchers.

[Tank]

for all of you wanting to trade taylor ward, i don't think he's tradeable until he can prove he's fully recovered from being beaned. while i think teams might be interested in him, i'd expect a pretty low-ball offer at this point in time. maybe that changes once the season starts and they see how well he's recovered.