Your Angels Offseason Plan

[Pancake Bear]

11 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I agree halos will have a few 1 year deals on position players and maybe longer deals on pitchers.

They will? Or that's what you would do? I've seen nothing at all that suggests they'll be going that route. 

[BTH]

13 minutes ago, Tank said:

for all of you wanting to trade taylor ward, i don't think he's tradeable until he can prove he's fully recovered from being beaned. while i think teams might be interested in him, i'd expect a pretty low-ball offer at this point in time. maybe that changes once the season starts and they see how well he's recovered.

That’s an interesting question.

Because if you look at just numbers and data, there’s not gonna be concern about that.

But if you use logic and common sense, that has to factor in.

I just don’t know how teams view it. Do they put him on a “don’t acquire” list, lower their evaluation of him, or don’t care at all?

Probably depends on the team, but I just don’t know to what degree.

[Erstad Grit]

15 minutes ago, Tank said:

for all of you wanting to trade taylor ward, i don't think he's tradeable until he can prove he's fully recovered from being beaned. while i think teams might be interested in him, i'd expect a pretty low-ball offer at this point in time. maybe that changes once the season starts and they see how well he's recovered.

A website said he's good enough to get glassnow lol

[AngelStew43]

The current ownership is not one to rebuild, he wants to reload.  

Yamamoto, Bellinger, Turner.  

[AngelStew43]

Oh, and I would trade Ward for Glasnow without hesitation.  

I don't get the interest in Anderson, though.  A 30 year old SS that forgot how to hit.  Pass. 

[Erstad Grit]

1 minute ago, AngelStew43 said:

Oh, and I would trade Ward for Glasnow without hesitation.  

I don't get the interest in Anderson, though.  A 30 year old SS that forgot how to hit.  Pass. 

Of course you would. No way in the world rays make that deal.

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Of course you would. No way in the world rays make that deal.

Glasnow made 21 starts. His career high prior to that was 14.  He’s making $25 million and a free agent after the season. 

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

They will? Or that's what you would do? I've seen nothing at all that suggests they'll be going that route. 

This is my off season plan. Only time will tell what players halos will get. So far nothing has happened and I think many teams waiting to see where Ohtani signs.

[Angels 1961]

I also would buy low on a minor league contract for Kyle Lewis.

[BTH]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

I also would buy low on a minor league contract for Kyle Lewis.

One of your better ideas on this website.

I’d even offer him a major league deal if that’s what it takes to get him. He has options, so all you’re guaranteeing is a 40-man spot

[Angels 1961]

If Minasian goes to bargain basement can but low on Travis Jankowski. Depth for OF.

[Chitown27Fan]

I am not sure how you guys feel about taking some low dollar pitching flyer's on Frankie Montas and Jack Flaherty? I think we need some RHP as we have so many lefty starters.If they have bounce back campains we could flip them for youth at the deadline if we dont want to resign them. Both guys will be looking to rebuild there value and be motivated I would think and shouldnt cost that much to take us out of the Ohtani sweepstakes. I do think that if we wait around for Ohtani to make a choice we could be left with an empty basket and even fewer options then there already is. to fill out a competative roster. I am of the mind set that even if we are in a youth movment you want to compete to keep that fire in your young guys and not bread a mentality of loosing is ok.

[Erstad Grit]

1 hour ago, Chitown27Fan said:

I am not sure how you guys feel about taking some low dollar pitching flyer's on Frankie Montas and Jack Flaherty? I think we need some RHP as we have so many lefty starters.If they have bounce back campains we could flip them for youth at the deadline if we dont want to resign them. Both guys will be looking to rebuild there value and be motivated I would think and shouldnt cost that much to take us out of the Ohtani sweepstakes. I do think that if we wait around for Ohtani to make a choice we could be left with an empty basket and even fewer options then there already is. to fill out a competative roster. I am of the mind set that even if we are in a youth movment you want to compete to keep that fire in your young guys and not bread a mentality of loosing is ok.

I agree. 

We did that with Noah S, and despite him being meh we still flipped him and acquired Moniak. 

[BTH]

1 hour ago, Chitown27Fan said:

I am not sure how you guys feel about taking some low dollar pitching flyer's on Frankie Montas and Jack Flaherty? I think we need some RHP 

I’d be down, but as a secondary SP addition and not the main SP addition.

And I’d prefer Montas over Flaherty.

[Stradling]

I assume guys like Montas, Flaherty and Mannea would be the type of guys  the Angels would be looking for as the 2nd arm added in the off season.  

[Chitown27Fan]

I think that they should try and strike now if they can. Maybe they have tried but if they are waiting for the winter meetings to happen or Ohtani to make a choice I think the price only goes up on the same players. Lets get the ball rolling Perry lol

[Mark68]

3 hours ago, Chitown27Fan said:

I am not sure how you guys feel about taking some low dollar pitching flyer's on Frankie Montas and Jack Flaherty? I think we need some RHP as we have so many lefty starters.If they have bounce back campains we could flip them for youth at the deadline if we dont want to resign them. Both guys will be looking to rebuild there value and be motivated I would think and shouldnt cost that much to take us out of the Ohtani sweepstakes. I do think that if we wait around for Ohtani to make a choice we could be left with an empty basket and even fewer options then there already is. to fill out a competative roster. I am of the mind set that even if we are in a youth movment you want to compete to keep that fire in your young guys and not bread a mentality of loosing is ok.

I'm certainly fine with this as long as they get someone from the top shelf top of the rotation list--Yamamoto or bust!

[ScruffytheJanitor]

1.  Trade Jo Adell for Javier Baez

2. Trade Patrick Sandoval for Robbie Ray

3. Trade Carlos Estevez for Phil Bickford

4.  Sign Austin Meadows to a five-year deal. 

5. Sign Heath Hembree to a three-year deal.

6. Sign Trevor Bauer as a Closer. 

7. Move Mike Trout to Third Base and Carlos Rendon to Left Field.

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

1.  Trade Jo Adell for Javier Baez

That is a no upside trade giving away 5 years of team control for a guy that is barely league average, over 30 and in a decline with $98 million left in his contract. This is a fantasy trade for Tigers fans.

4 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

2. Trade Patrick Sandoval for Robbie Ray

A 32 year old pitcher owed $73 million and logged one game for the Mariners last season before blowing out his flexor and ulnar and isn't expected back until the end of the 2024 season. This is a Mariners fan dream trade. 

4 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

3. Trade Carlos Estevez for Phil Bickford

Estevez is expensive crap. Bickford is cheap crap. The Angels would have to pay SF to make the swap and still would have crap. No to crap.

4 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

4.  Sign Austin Meadows to a five-year deal. 

Meadows has played all of 42 games in the last two years. No, just hell no, we dont need another Rendon't. 

4 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

5. Sign Heath Hembree to a three-year deal.

This guy has been gawd awful for the three previous years and you have to be nuts to think his 1.1 innings pitched last year without giving up a run says he has turned it around. This is nuts, relievers are flakes and Hembree is dandruff. 

4 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

7. Move Mike Trout to Third Base and Carlos Rendon to Left Field.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

That is a no upside trade giving away 5 years of team control for a guy that is barely league average, over 30 and in a decline with $98 million left in his contract. This is a fantasy trade for Tigers fans.

A 32 year old pitcher owed $73 million and logged one game for the Mariners last season before blowing out his flexor and ulnar and isn't expected back until the end of the 2024 season. This is a Mariners fan dream trade. 

Estevez is expensive crap. Bickford is cheap crap. The Angels would have to pay SF to make the swap and still would have crap. No to crap.

Meadows has played all of 42 games in the last two years. No, just hell no, we dont need another Rendon't. 

This guy has been gawd awful for the three previous years and you have to be nuts to think his 1.1 innings pitched last year without giving up a run says he has turned it around. This is nuts, relievers are flakes and Hembree is dandruff. 

[Hubs]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

To be fair, I didn't get it either. Just a bunch of bad decisions, LOL. 

[angelsnationtalk]

Offseason Plan: 

Sign Ohtani: 12yr $552M = $46 AAV
Sign Jordan Hicks: 3yr/$15M = $5M AAV
Trade Rengifo + Kochanowicz for Shane Bieber = +$7,200,000 AAV
Trade Silseth + Dana + Adell for Corbin Burnes = + $14,100,000 AAV

Gets you just shy of the $73M before hitting the tax.

IDK.......

Edited November 30, 2023 by angelsnationtalk

[mmc]

5 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Offseason Plan: 

Sign Ohtani: 12yr $552M = $46 AAV
Sign Jordan Hicks: 3yr/$15M = $5M AAV
Trade Rengifo + Kochanowicz for Shane Bieber = +$7,200,000 AAV
Trade Silseth + Dana + Adell for Corbin Burnes = + $14,100,000 AAV

Gets you just shy of the $73M before hitting the tax.

IDK.......

Both of the other teams laugh at your trade suggestions 

[angelsnationtalk]

4 minutes ago, mmc said:

Both of the other teams laugh at your trade suggestions 

then rebuild and burn for 5 years