Zachary Neto

[Taylor]

How we feeling about our boy? He's had a little more baseball under his belt now.

[Duren, Duren]

He started really hot but has hit a wall. Still lots of growing pains at the plate. Chasing too much and falling behind in the count. Should improve with more experience and familiarity with pitchers. 

No problems in the field. 

Should be the starter at short next season. But not sure where in the order he'll bat. 

[Angel Oracle]

8 hours ago, Duren, Duren said:

He started really hot but has hit a wall. Still lots of growing pains at the plate. Chasing too much and falling behind in the count. Should improve with more experience and familiarity with pitchers. 

No problems in the field. 

Should be the starter at short next season. But not sure where in the order he'll bat. 

And still only 22.

[Blarg]

Neto in September  .151/.233/.245/.479

That line makes Squid look like Barry Bonds. 

[Erstad Grit]

I'm loving this core of Moniak, Neto, Nolan, and O Hoppe. I actually think Walsh will rebound next year and hopefully Ward as well. Add a Trout in the CO with more days off and DH time and I think we have a decent lineup. Keeping Moose and I know Bellinger is probably an impossibility but we'd be good without any expectation of Rendon. 

 

Add someone like Nola and Hader and our staff is looking decent as well. 

 

Sell the team Arte

[jsnpritchett]

6 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I'm loving this core of Moniak, Neto, Nolan, and O Hoppe. I actually think Walsh will rebound next year and hopefully Ward as well. Add a Trout in the CO with more days off and DH time and I think we have a decent lineup. Keeping Moose and I know Bellinger is probably an impossibility but we'd be good without any expectation of Rendon. 

 

Add someone like Nola and Hader and our staff is looking decent as well. 

 

Sell the team Arte

73 OPS+, -0.3 bWAR since coming to the Angels.

[Inside Pitch]

Fatigue, likely came back from injury too soon the first time and it's had some residual effects.  But people will play the what have you done for me lately game. 

Also, he's not Mike Trout so, sucks.

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Fatigue, likely came back from injury too soon the first time and it's had some residual effects.  But people will play the what have you done for me lately game. 

Also, he's not Mike Trout so, sucks.

You must have missed it, Mike Trout also sucks and is a pussy.  It’s sad but the people have spoken so it must be true. 

[cals]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

You must have missed it, Mike Trout also sucks and is a pussy.  It’s sad but the people have spoken so it must be true. 

If you read this in the voice of a woman on her period it sounds really good.

[Angels 1961]

Been a long season with injuries for Zach. Thes are dog days for many Neto will be fine. Many growing pains for many young halo players and this will continue into 2024. This is process with a youth movement they are learning at highest level.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, cals said:

If you read this in the voice of a woman on her period it sounds really good.

Or as Cali or as NCAA79 or as FS79 or as AO. 

[Erstad Grit]

37 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

73 OPS+, -0.3 bWAR since coming to the Angels.

He's a 1 yr guy on a probably 2-3 million deal. With so much money devoted to 3B I'm not sure what any options are. I'll say this, he has had more big hits for the Angels than Rendon has. 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

He's a 1 yr guy on a probably 2-3 million deal. With so much money devoted to 3B I'm not sure what any options are. I'll say this, he has had more big hits for the Angels than Rendon has. 

And yet been worse. 

[Stradling]

23 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Or as Cali or as NCAA79 or as FS79 or as AO. 

Or 2030. 

[ArkyAngelsFan]

54 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I'm loving this core of Moniak, Neto, Nolan, and O Hoppe. I actually think Walsh will rebound next year and hopefully Ward as well. Add a Trout in the CO with more days off and DH time and I think we have a decent lineup. Keeping Moose and I know Bellinger is probably an impossibility but we'd be good without any expectation of Rendon. 

 

Add someone like Nola and Hader and our staff is looking decent as well. 

 

Sell the team Arte

I like your list but is there a reason why you left Rengifo off? I think he was breaking out until his injury.

~ArkyAngelsFan ~

[Angelsfan1984]

10 minutes ago, ArkyAngelsFan said:

I like your list but is there a reason why you left Rengifo off? I think he was breaking out until his injury.

~ArkyAngelsFan ~

He was breaking out until he was breaking in 

-Abraham Lincoln 

[UndertheHalo]

His name is actually Zachias

[Erstad Grit]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

And yet been worse. 

In my opinion you are obsessed with defending Rendon and its resulting with terrible takes and clouded judgments. 

[Stradling]

49 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

In my opinion you are obsessed with defending Rendon and its resulting with terrible takes and clouded judgments. 

Also his offense was better than Moustakas. I’m sorry the stats agree with me. If his OPS+ was better than Rendon then I wouldn’t tell you it was. But that isn’t the case. 

[Erstad Grit]

11 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Also his offense was better than Moustakas. I’m sorry the stats agree with me. If his OPS+ was better than Rendon then I wouldn’t tell you it was. But that isn’t the case. 

For the season Moose has a higher OPS, and even citing OPS with Rendon is deflection since he only played in 43 games. 

Would you rather have 2023 Rendon with his salary or 2023 Moose and his salary? 

 

[stormngt]

13 hours ago, Duren, Duren said:

He started really hot but has hit a wall. Still lots of growing pains at the plate. Chasing too much and falling behind in the count. Should improve with more experience and familiarity with pitchers. 

No problems in the field. 

Should be the starter at short next season. But not sure where in the order he'll bat. 

He didnt hit a wall he hut the IL.  Hasn't been the same with the bat since returning.

[Angels 1961]

36 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

For the season Moose has a higher OPS, and even citing OPS with Rendon is deflection since he only played in 43 games. 

Would you rather have 2023 Rendon with his salary or 2023 Moose and his salary? 

 

The moose will be loose in 3 more games.

[Angelsjunky]

I don't think he'll ever be an elite bat, but he'll be above average with good shortstop defense, which will make him a 3-5 WAR borderline star.

[Torridd]

6 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

I'm loving this core of Moniak, Neto, Nolan, and O Hoppe. I actually think Walsh will rebound next year and hopefully Ward as well. Add a Trout in the CO with more days off and DH time and I think we have a decent lineup. Keeping Moose and I know Bellinger is probably an impossibility but we'd be good without any expectation of Rendon. 

 

Add someone like Nola and Hader and our staff is looking decent as well. 

 

Sell the team Arte

I love optimism. Really.

[Taylor]

6 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

73 OPS+, -0.3 bWAR since coming to the Angels.

But his intangibles!