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OC Register: Mike Trout expects to ‘have conversations’ with Angels management about the organization’s future


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With no more Shohei, Mike is going to be the only really marketable player on the team that has the capability of drawing in the fans.  He'll be good for 2-3 bobblehead and 3 or 4 t-shirt/jersey nights per season alone.  There's no chance he gets traded, and what team is going to take on his contract given his recent difficulty in playing anything close to a full season.

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17 minutes ago, SoCalDucksFan said:

With no more Shohei, Mike is going to be the only really marketable player on the team that has the capability of drawing in the fans.  He'll be good for 2-3 bobblehead and 3 or 4 t-shirt/jersey nights per season alone.  There's no chance he gets traded, and what team is going to take on his contract given his recent difficulty in playing anything close to a full season.

Angels would have to eat some of the money. What good is Trout on a team in rebuild mode. After 8 losing seasons and Ohtani gone Trout could be traded.

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5 hours ago, Slegnaac said:

We know ol Mike's a multi-millionaire,
The haters all said "Mike move away from there"
Said "Atlanta Houston is the place you ought to be"
So they loaded up his trucks and he moved to Philly. 

Pennsylvania that is.

Cheese steaks

Eagles games

Reading this you would expect to hear a banjo breakdown next, but with this team it could segue into Deliverance.

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5 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

He is wasted on Angels and after 8 losing seasons get rid of some of that contract. 

so if you're a baseball gm, what would you trade for an incredibly expensive superstar who's getting older and can't stay healthy?

when you can answer that honestly, then you'll realize how difficult trading him is going to be.

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1 minute ago, Tank said:

so if you're a baseball gm, what would you trade for an incredibly expensive superstar who's getting older and can't stay healthy?

when you can answer that honestly, then you'll realize how difficult trading him is going to be.

that being said, if ohtani leaves, i think perry has to explore the option of trading trout and at the very least see what the market would be for him. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tank said:

so if you're a baseball gm, what would you trade for an incredibly expensive superstar who's getting older and can't stay healthy?

when you can answer that honestly, then you'll realize how difficult trading him is going to be.

Where is Fred Haney to answer your question?

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1 minute ago, Tank said:

so if you're a baseball gm, what would you trade for an incredibly expensive superstar who's getting older and can't stay healthy?

when you can answer that honestly, then you'll realize how difficult trading him is going to be.

Angels would have to eat a lot of that contract for sure. Yankees, Philly others would try to make a deal. Team that let him DH once or twice a year. If halos going into rebuild mode I try and move him. Angels are not winning anytime soon.

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10 minutes ago, Tank said:

so if you're a baseball gm, what would you trade for an incredibly expensive superstar who's getting older and can't stay healthy?

when you can answer that honestly, then you'll realize how difficult trading him is going to be.

We gave Napoli and Rivera for Wells, and he wasn't even a superstar. 

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1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

Angels would have to eat a lot of that contract for sure. Yankees, Philly others would try to make a deal. Team that let him DH once or twice a year. If halos going into rebuild mode I try and move him. Angels are not winning anytime soon.

i don't disagree with trying to move him. but what others and myself are trying to say is that you're not going to get much for him.  you're going to have to eat a ton of that $252 mil still left for anyone to touch him. you're going to get low level prospects and an eduardo escobar or two for him. is that worth trading him?

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2 hours ago, Tank said:

i don't disagree with trying to move him. but what others and myself are trying to say is that you're not going to get much for him.  you're going to have to eat a ton of that $252 mil still left for anyone to touch him. you're going to get low level prospects and an eduardo escobar or two for him. is that worth trading him?

Trout has all the power.  He has a NTC by being a 10/5 player.  If he asks to be traded, Angels will have no leverage and as you point out, the Angels won't get anything of value for him, except getting out of his contract.

IF Trout does request a trade, it'll be to Philadelphia.  Makes a lot of sense.  A framework would be something like.

Phillies get: Mike Trout (Angels pay for 40% of remaining contract each season)

Angels get: Kyle Schwarber, 2-3 prospects outside of Phillies top 15.

Angels get some salary relief after 2 seasons and have the possibility to flip Schwarber during the 2025 season, while helping PHI get his contract off the books.

Phillies get a productive albeit injury prone Mike Trout, who can still mash, and maybe stay healthy away from the terrible Angels training staff.

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5 hours ago, aznhockeyguy said:

Trout has all the power.  He has a NTC by being a 10/5 player.  If he asks to be traded, Angels will have no leverage and as you point out, the Angels won't get anything of value for him, except getting out of his contract.

IF Trout does request a trade, it'll be to Philadelphia.  Makes a lot of sense.  A framework would be something like.

Phillies get: Mike Trout (Angels pay for 40% of remaining contract each season)

Angels get: Kyle Schwarber, 2-3 prospects outside of Phillies top 15.

Angels get some salary relief after 2 seasons and have the possibility to flip Schwarber during the 2025 season, while helping PHI get his contract off the books.

Phillies get a productive albeit injury prone Mike Trout, who can still mash, and maybe stay healthy away from the terrible Angels training staff.

“If Trout does request a trade” is the key…..If he asks, it’ll be privately in a way that doesn’t embarrass the club….If he asks, Arte will surely feel obligated to honor the request, if he can…he’s been loyal and a good soldier, if he wants out, they’ll try to accommodate him….doesn’t mean it would be easy to do, it won’t…..but the key is does Trout ask? I think he might….he can see how long the road back will be….

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7 hours ago, aznhockeyguy said:

Trout has all the power.  He has a NTC by being a 10/5 player.  If he asks to be traded, Angels will have no leverage and as you point out, the Angels won't get anything of value for him, except getting out of his contract.

IF Trout does request a trade, it'll be to Philadelphia.  Makes a lot of sense.  A framework would be something like.

Phillies get: Mike Trout (Angels pay for 40% of remaining contract each season)

Angels get: Kyle Schwarber, 2-3 prospects outside of Phillies top 15.

Angels get some salary relief after 2 seasons and have the possibility to flip Schwarber during the 2025 season, while helping PHI get his contract off the books.

Phillies get a productive albeit injury prone Mike Trout, who can still mash, and maybe stay healthy away from the terrible Angels training staff.

Halos would have to pay more than 40% of his salary. Remember, another team is trading for a big name player that rarely ever plays. No way they are willing to pay big money for a name alone. 

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4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Angels should have a conversation with Trout in regards to him being on the field. 

Yeah, is he done for the season? Broke another bone or tore a ligament? We haven't been told what the problem is, only that he's on the IL again.

Angels are always very secretive about this. Also, we have no idea when, or if, Rendon will take the field again. Is "internal bleeding" permanent? Is that it for him?

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13 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Yeah, is he done for the season? Broke another bone or tore a ligament? We haven't been told what the problem is, only that he's on the IL again.

Did you read the first post in this thread that you're replying to? It details exactly what his current issue is. They haven't been secretive about it in any way. He has been struggling with pain tolerance as he recovers from the hamate bone surgery.  

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3 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Did you read the first post in this thread that you're replying to? It details exactly what his current issue is. They haven't been secretive about it in any way. He has been struggling with pain tolerance as he recovers from the hamate bone surgery.  

He doesn’t need to read it, he has a script where he just questions injuries and complains about the team not calling him on his land line to let him personally know what’s up with each player. He broke script though because there’s no mention of Stassi. 

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2 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

Yeah, is he done for the season? Broke another bone or tore a ligament? We haven't been told what the problem is, only that he's on the IL again.

Angels are always very secretive about this. Also, we have no idea when, or if, Rendon will take the field again. Is "internal bleeding" permanent? Is that it for him?

I would guess he went back on the DL to heal up properly as soon as he found out about Shohei's UCL tear.

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Remember that Trout was having a down season before his injury. One of the worst in his career. He couldn't consistently make contact in locations he used to all the time. The umps didn't seem to give him the calls he used to get on marginal pitches. And he took a clear back seat to Ohtani in terms of on field production and media attention. And no discussion of him being in the MVP race. 

He looked like he was settling into a part of his career where expectations needed to be lowered. Still an above average player but not amongst the current elite in the game.

And the injuries. Who could realistically project multiple seasons playing around 130 games anymore? He may still put some good years together but doubtful he fulfills the value of the contract.

 

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