Next Move?

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Revad said:

You’d have thought we would have learned after Ryan

Apparently not.  

[Warfarin]

9 hours ago, OhtaniSan said:

I think Hader would be a perfect fit, the big question is the cost. 

Could Adell serve as a centerpiece in a Hader trade?

I feel Adell has rebuilt his value to about where Moniak was in last years Syndergaard deal. 

Perhaps Adell and J. Sanchez for Hader?

I am not sure what he would cost, but I agree that Hader would be a prime target.  He'd probably be my #1 option at this point.

So, let's say target a trade for Hader and Candelario.  

Backend of the BP becomes Estevez, Hader, Lopez, Moore.  Soriano, Webb, and Loup would essentially occupy the middle innings.   Barria serves in the long relief role.

With Candelario, they'd roll with him at 3B and Moose at 1B vs RHP.  Moose sits vs LHP and some combination of Drury and Rengifo can play 1B/2B.

I'd like Bellinger, but with Moniak raking and Trout hopefully coming back in the upcoming weeks, his services may be less needed than the above options.

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, REDneck said:

Nice haul if u ask me.

I thought I was worth more.  

[TroutField]

1 hour ago, Warfarin said:

I am not sure what he would cost, but I agree that Hader would be a prime target.  He'd probably be my #1 option at this point.

So, let's say target a trade for Hader and Candelario.  

Backend of the BP becomes Estevez, Hader, Lopez, Moore.  Soriano, Webb, and Loup would essentially occupy the middle innings.   Barria serves in the long relief role.

With Candelario, they'd roll with him at 3B and Moose at 1B vs RHP.  Moose sits vs LHP and some combination of Drury and Rengifo can play 1B/2B.

I'd like Bellinger, but with Moniak raking and Trout hopefully coming back in the upcoming weeks, his services may be less needed than the above options.

My only reservations with Hader are 1. The prospect cost and 2. Estevez has flat out not done well in non save situations, who is to say he would keep the same effectiveness if he moved to an 8th inning guy. 
 

edited so Blarg can remove his tampon about not placing an S after reservations. 

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, TroutField said:

My only reservation with Hader is 1. The prospect cost and 2. Estevez has flat out not done well in non save situations, who is to say he would keep the same effectiveness if he moved to an 8th inning guy. 

We'll have to see.  But we could, alternatively, have the closing duties rotate with the portion of the lineup that is due up (i.e. LHH or RHH), given we have two dominant relievers to close out games.

I would opt to err on the side of acquiring shutdown talent and let things get figured out thereafter.  

[Blarg]

25 minutes ago, TroutField said:

My only reservation with Hader is 1. The prospect cost and 2. Estevez has flat out not done well in non save situations, who is to say he would keep the same effectiveness if he moved to an 8th inning guy. 

You seem to have difficulty with the concept of singular and plural reservations. It's like saying your only girlfriend is 1) Suzie and 2) Mary. 

So which is your only reservation? 

Or girlfriend for that matter. 

[TroutField]

23 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You seem to have difficulty with the concept of singular and plural reservations. It's like saying your only girlfriend is 1) Suzie and 2) Mary. 

So which is your only reservation? 

Or girlfriend for that matter. 

I threw in the prospect cost part at the last minute and didn’t go back and correct the first part. 1 post and I have difficulty with singular and plural? 
 

this is a baseball website and you take time out of your day to give me an English lesson? All the other shit to celebrate that happened today and you choose to single out a single post? 
 

weird shit, dude 

[Stradling]

 

[BTH]

16 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 

Bees broadcaster tweeted that Adams had a scheduled day off.

The IE game was a blowout when Rada and Sanchez were taken out late. (As was non-prospect C Ronaldo Flores)

I doubt Vera and Ramirez have much, if any, value.

[SoWhat]

If Perry trades Rada for half a season of Jeimer Candelario, I will eat my own feces. 
 

[totdprods]

Would you do something like Sandoval for Hader and Snell?

Not necessarily suggesting that exact trade, but would you flip Sandoval for two impact rentals, seeing as how there ain’t much left to trade from on the farm.

Seeing as how I doubt they’d want to move Ward, Sandoval, Rengifo…the only guys on the MLB club (and actually contributing) with actual trade value and theoretical internal replacements, and since there isn’t much prospect capital left, I have to think remaining moves are gonna be pretty marginal or will involve eating a lot of salary (Contreras, Goldschmidt, Verlander/Scherzer)

Edited July 28, 2023 by totdprods

[TroutField]

3 minutes ago, SoWhat said:

If Perry trades Rada for half a season of Jeimer Candelario, I will eat my own feces. 
 

Someone on twitter mentioned Silseth’s name in a Candelario trade. I would not be happy with that 

[AngelsFanSince86]

Kind of a moot point, but I feel like the package they sent over to the white Sox could have netted Snell and Hader. 

At least by the trade value website, it would have been more than enough value. 

Edit: plus, catcher is definitely a position of need for the Padres.

Edited July 28, 2023 by AngelsFanSince86

[TroutField]

15 minutes ago, AngelsFanSince86 said:

Kind of a moot point, but I feel like the package they sent over to the white Sox could have netted Snell and Hader. 

At least by the trade value website, it would have been more than enough value. 

Edit: plus, catcher is definitely a position of need for the Padres.

Snell has been amazing but not really known for pitching deep into games, if I remember correctly. The thought process was probably to get a good starter that can go deep into games and minimize the use of the bullpen. 

[totdprods]

14 minutes ago, TroutField said:

Snell has been amazing but not really known for pitching deep into games, if I remember correctly. The thought process was probably to get a good starter that can go deep into games and minimize the use of the bullpen. 

We’re also lefty heavy, both rotation and pen.

[Angels 1961]

13 hours ago, SoWhat said:

If Perry trades Rada for half a season of Jeimer Candelario, I will eat my own feces. 
 

bullshit

[Angels 1961]

Verlander

[AngelsFanSince86]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

We’re also lefty heavy, both rotation and pen.

That's a good point

[Angels 1961]

5 minutes ago, AngelsFanSince86 said:

That's a good point

Only Loup and Moore lefties in pen

[totdprods]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Only Loup and Moore lefties in pen

Yeah and before Lopez, Estevez was the only trustworthy righty. 

Hader is great, but acquiring another lefty would’ve been a little too unbalanced.

[khouse]

On 7/27/2023 at 12:02 AM, Hubs said:

Tucker Davidson is likely gone if they don’t move someone and then it’s either Wantz or Herget next up.

07/27/23

Los Angeles Angels designated LHP Tucker Davidson for assignment.

[Stradling]

On 7/27/2023 at 7:06 PM, REDneck said:

Strad has not not heard yet, but he's being traded for four 15k posters from another site...U gotta give to get!

There was something wrong with the physicals so the trade fell through. 

[totdprods]

So who do we think we could get for Giolito and Lopez?

[REDneck]

Just now, Stradling said:

There was something wrong with the physicals so the trade fell through. 

Totally believable! Guess we're stuck with you.

[Angels 1961]

Angel's next move is forget about WC. Let AL East fight that out. Halos need to win AL west. How many games out in west. Worry about what Astro's and Ranger's do. How did they do tonight? How many more games against them? Win the west forget about WC.