India On the Block

[Ron Mexico]

Would Chase or Bachman or maybe even Reid be enough? Him and Neto would be Sick . 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083715-mlb-rumors-reds-2021-nl-roy-jonathan-india-on-trade-block-ahead-of-2023-deadline

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Ron Mexico said:

Would Chase or Bachman or maybe even Reid be enough?

For a whole country?  Probably not.

[Stradling]

I would not even consider Detmers for him. 

[Swordsman78]

No way they trade a starting pitcher/Detmers.   Not Going To Happen  

[Dtwncbad]

I don’t see the Angels trading any mlb ready pitching to acquire a second baseman.

[Angel Oracle]

Drury is hopefully back soon anyway.

 

[totdprods]

I bet Seattle gets him for a SP. They need a 2B real bad and have the SP depth to swing a trade, they have a history of trading, and it's a move for SEA that helps them as much next year as it does this year.

Edited July 24, 2023 by totdprods

[mmc]

This can't stick to the trade target thread or deadline thread?  Don't see how India makes any sense for us, they'd want a premium and he's a worse player than Drury

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

This can't stick to the trade target thread or deadline thread?  Don't see how India makes any sense for us, they'd want a premium and he's a worse player than Drury

This comment belongs in the thread management thread.

[Taylor]

Thanks for the scoop on India, Mexico.

[Dtwncbad]

6 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Thanks for the scoop on India, Mexico.

Jamaica good point.  Yes we are all Hungary for this kind of info. But Kenya say thanks to the other contributors?

[REDneck]

52 minutes ago, T.G. said:

For a whole country?  Probably not.

Ok, how about just for the Kashmir region?

[Taylor]

8 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Jamaica good point.  Yes we are all Hungary for this kind of info. But Kenya say thanks to the other contributors?

Ukraine do it.

[T.G.]

6 minutes ago, REDneck said:

Ok, how about just for the Kashmir region?

Scott Kazmir retired after the 2021 season.

[Angel Oracle]

46 minutes ago, REDneck said:

Ok, how about just for the Kashmir region?

[DMVol]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Drury is hopefully back soon anyway.

If he can stay healthy, Drury is your 2bman through next year…worry about upgrading elsewhere…

[Inside Pitch]

Jonathan India

Road numbers:
22 - .251/.329/.363 (203 PAs)
23 - .219/.300/.370 (192 PAs)

Defensively, negative 19 DRS over the last two seasons.

BTW, nice to see Rengifo have a nice series at home because Angel Stadium has been death to him all season.

 

[Hubs]

5 hours ago, mmc said:

This can't stick to the trade target thread or deadline thread?  Don't see how India makes any sense for us, they'd want a premium and he's a worse player than Drury

Arguably not a worse player than Drury. He's played in way more games than Drury did in his first three years, and while he had a sophomore slump after winning the ROY...his numbers have rebounded somewhat and he's on pace for 25 HR.

As Cincinnati is among the best hitters parks in the league, it makes sense to look at his road numbers, but what is he hitting like in Dodgers Stadium (which is the ballpark most similar to ours). Not good stats there in 2 career games.

 

 

[Inside Pitch]

15 minutes ago, Hubs said:

As Cincinnati is among the best hitters parks in the league, it makes sense to look at his road numbers, but what is he hitting like in Dodgers Stadium (which is the ballpark most similar to ours). Not good stats there in 2 career games.

Angel Stadium plays nothing like Dodger stadium anymore, it's become quite the hitter's parks in recent seasons which is why Rengifo's struggles at home were/are curious.  Angel Stadium's park index for hitters this season is 107, Dodger Stadium is sitting at 96.  For his career India has a .670 OPS in Dodger stadium over 45 PAs, but that sample is so small it's not really useful.

The reason you look at ALL road games is that it will invariably include games in hitter's parks and you want to get as neutral a read as possible.  OPS+ tries to do this but extreme parks will always lead to slanted numbers, typically in the power category -- Coors and Cinci are extreme examples of this -- the park in SF being the complete opposite.

[Blarg]

6 hours ago, mmc said:

This can't stick to the trade target thread or deadline thread?  Don't see how India makes any sense for us, they'd want a premium and he's a worse player than Drury

This from the guy that created a completely new post for every draft pick instead of putting it in the Official 2023 Draft thread. 

[mmc]

8 minutes ago, Blarg said:

This from the guy that created a completely new post for every draft pick instead of putting it in the Official 2023 Draft thread. 

Only the picks in the first 10 rounds, and only because that's what Chuck told me to do a few years ago

[Angels 1961]

Not trading starting pitching for a 2B. He is not a great fielder. 

[Hubs]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Angel Stadium plays nothing like Dodger stadium anymore, it's become quite the hitter's parks in recent seasons which is why Rengifo's struggles at home were/are curious.  Angel Stadium's park index for hitters this season is 107, Dodger Stadium is sitting at 96.  For his career India has a .670 OPS in Dodger stadium over 45 PAs, but that sample is so small it's not really useful.

The reason you look at ALL road games is that it will invariably include games in hitter's parks and you want to get as neutral a read as possible.  OPS+ tries to do this but extreme parks will always lead to slanted numbers, typically in the power category -- Coors and Cinci are extreme examples of this -- the park in SF being the complete opposite.

I didn't realize they'd diverged this much. Is this solely moving the right field HR line down?

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

But, if there isn’t a Pole can it be an Official thread?

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Hubs said:

I didn't realize they'd diverged this much. Is this solely moving the right field HR line down?

 I haven't looked recently but early on it looked like it was the driving force for the uptick.  The park was always harder on LHBs than RHs -- but it seems like everyone has benefitted from it.  When you consider how the rabbit balls from a few years back were only adding a 2-10 feet to batted balls it kind of makes sense.