Zach Neto's ceiling

[mmc]

It's very early in his career still, but he already looks like a major leaguer not even a year after being drafted.  After watching him at this level, what do you think his ceiling is as a player?

[jsnpritchett]

Honus Wagner.

[bloodbrother]

15/15 with hopefully a .270+ BA to go along with solid defense at SS is what I'd call a reasonable upside.

[Tyler]

Dustin Pedroia type 

[m0nkey]

Anything less than 2002 Alex Rodriguez and he’s a bust

[UndertheHalo]

[Second Base]

He's proven the leg kick isn't a gimmick and isn't going to be easily exploited, and that he has enough potency in his two strike approach to be more than a slap hitter. He's continued to hit for average and at some point we'll need to stop doubting it and just accept that desire his unorthodox approach, Neto should find a may to hot somewhere between .270 and .300 in the majors. 

And his power, he won't ever become the absolutely dominant force he was in college, but again, his swing maxes out his strength output on fly balls, so then it's simply a matter of physicality. And for him, Neto isn't a physically superior specimen at the elite level the way others are. He will likely hit between 15-20 HR's. 

From a speed standpoint, it's a small part of his game, and it's also reliant upon how the game is managed by others. But he should run himself into 5-10 bags per year. 

And as a defender, he won't ever win a Gold Glove, but if you watch him enough, you'll start to see how natural and intuitive he is out there. He'll be a steady, solid defender. 

So end of the day, I'll average it all together and say Neto's likely outcome is like a .285 12 HR hitter with like 3-4 wins every year. His ceiling is probably closer to 5-6 wins but I don't think he'll be at that level for an extended period of time. 

[Docwaukee]

Bogaerts.  That's his ceiling.  

very good hitter and defender.  both of those tools could end up excellent.  is getting hit a thing for him?  maybe.  the guy seems fearless.  He's not afraid of a free pass or wasn't in his limited time in the minors but he'll need that on a go forward.  A 10% bb rate will make him a very good player with his bat to ball skills.   

[Redondo]

I believe he has a solid career

Really pulling for him

Angels need young players to step in and fill voids in the roster

[tdawg87]

6 hours ago, Second Base said:

He's proven the leg kick isn't a gimmick and isn't going to be easily exploited, and that he has enough potency in his two strike approach to be more than a slap hitter. He's continued to hit for average and at some point we'll need to stop doubting it and just accept that desire his unorthodox approach, Neto should find a may to hot somewhere between .270 and .300 in the majors. 

And his power, he won't ever become the absolutely dominant force he was in college, but again, his swing maxes out his strength output on fly balls, so then it's simply a matter of physicality. And for him, Neto isn't a physically superior specimen at the elite level the way others are. He will likely hit between 5-20 HR's. 

From a speed standpoint, it's a small part of his game, and it's also reliant upon how the game is managed by others. But he should run himself into 5-10 bags per year. 

And as a defender, he won't ever win a Gold Glove, but if you watch him enough, you'll start to see how natural and intuitive he is out there. He'll be a steady, solid defender. 

So end of the day, I'll average it all together and say Neto's likely outcome is like a .285 12 HR hitter with like 3-4 wins every year. His ceiling is probably closer to 5-6 wins but I don't think he'll be at that level for an extended period of time. 

I disagree, I think he can hit anywhere between 2 and 39 homers.

[Chuck]

His favorite ball player growing up, Derek Jeter.

[Taylor]

Randy Veldarde

[ScruffytheJanitor]

50 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

His favorite ball player growing up, Derek Jeter.

This was what I was thinking too, weirdly enough. Jeter's career slash line (.310/.374/.440) looks pretty close to what I think he can become; let's hope he also has Jeter's peak. 

[Vladdy Issues]

1 hour ago, tdawg87 said:

I disagree, I think he can hit anywhere between 2 and 39 homers.

I like your thinking here Mr. Dawg

[Angels 1961]

I think he has solved SS for Angels. He will be bright spot for 2023 and years to come.

[T.G.]

Ralston Schmidt

[Taylor]

10 hours ago, Second Base said:

He's proven the leg kick isn't a gimmick and isn't going to be easily exploited, and that he has enough potency in his two strike approach to be more than a slap hitter. He's continued to hit for average and at some point we'll need to stop doubting it and just accept that desire his unorthodox approach, Neto should find a may to hot somewhere between .270 and .300 in the majors. 

And his power, he won't ever become the absolutely dominant force he was in college, but again, his swing maxes out his strength output on fly balls, so then it's simply a matter of physicality. And for him, Neto isn't a physically superior specimen at the elite level the way others are. He will likely hit between 5-20 HR's. 

From a speed standpoint, it's a small part of his game, and it's also reliant upon how the game is managed by others. But he should run himself into 5-10 bags per year. 

And as a defender, he won't ever win a Gold Glove, but if you watch him enough, you'll start to see how natural and intuitive he is out there. He'll be a steady, solid defender. 

So end of the day, I'll average it all together and say Neto's likely outcome is like a .285 12 HR hitter with like 3-4 wins every year. His ceiling is probably closer to 5-6 wins but I don't think he'll be at that level for an extended period of time. 

After 10 games you're predicting this?

[jsnpritchett]

23 minutes ago, Taylor said:

After 10 games you're predicting this?

[Angelsjunky]

No idea about his ceiling, but I'd guess something like Howie Kendrick with the bat, and solid to good defense at SS. 

[Angelsjunky]

My prediction is that he'll hit between .180 and .350, get on base at a .200 to 450 rate, and slug .250 to .650. He'll also play SS and commit some errors, but also make good plays too. He may or may not become a father. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

Big upside, I remembered int he draft that there were reports of him being a top 5 pick. 

Some of the comps I've heard were from Baez to bergman

Honesty I can see a 270-300 average guy with 15-20 Hr and 30+ doubles with solid BB rate 

[Docwaukee]

If I'm going with a comp instead of his ceiling it would be someone like Elvis Andrus.  

[Adam]

We'll know he's good as soon as Passan writes that he will not stay after his 6th year

[angelsnationtalk]

I just love how his scouting numbers show average with his speed. From what i've seen he's damn fast and Randazzo doesn't stop talking about how fast he is. 

[Stradling]

How long does he have to play well before they give him an 8-10 year deal buying out some free agency years?