Gameday Thread: Blue Jays @ Angels (4/9/23): Detmers on the mound

[Angels 1961]

Some of blame goes to Detmers great first 5 but horrible 6th. Worse fears happening with BP. Some answer maybe in  minors or a trade. Devenski may help

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, ThisismineScios said:

Really though we can’t just assume all these guys are going to comprise a good bullpen going forward. Nobody has good stuff, besides Estevez (slightly above average). Problem is Tepera and Loup, arguably the two worst, are expensive. Can’t option them and can’t trade them. Joyce obviously isn’t ready. Herget is no longer fooling anyone. What do they do? This is now 3 bullpen losses. That’s really bad. 

Only Estévez is under contract beyond this season (through 2024).

I smell a bullpen cleansing at some point this season.

[Jason]

7 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Some of blame goes to Detmers great first 5 but horrible 6th. Worse fears happening with BP. Some answer maybe in  minors or a trade. Devenski may help

Trade? Then it’s middle of the season and that’s going to be to late 

[Duren, Duren]

It's better to be beaten decisively than have these bullpen disasters. 

[oldguy]

57 minutes ago, Duren, Duren said:

It's better to be beaten decisively than have these bullpen disasters. 

True, these losses hurt, but this club IS showing some offensive heart that's been missing for quite a few years.

[Blarg]

Nevin needs to have a pre-game closed door meeting with the bullpen pitchers and not let them out.

[fan_since79]

14 hours ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

Light up the failo. This bullpen is going to cost us an otherwise solid team

Third or fourth place.

Long season coming.

 

 

[Angels 1961]

Halos tied for 1st this morning, but it seems without BP help could be a struggle all season. I'm sure Minasian is looking for help as many other teams have same problem. 

[nando714]

Tough loss but love the way we battled back and didn’t fold like a lawn chair 

bullpen won’t be that bad everyday and the blue jays line up in close to elite 

anything less than a sweep of the nats will be a disappointment 

[Jason]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

Third or fourth place.

Long season coming.

 

 

This will be true if the bullpen arms do not get their crap together 

[Hubs]

It's still weird pitching decisions in my opinion. Friday night they should've left Sandoval in to start the 7th, then brought Moore in if he didn't make it through. Then Herget maybe to open the 8th, but OK with Tepera /Quijada there and Estevez to close it.

Ok, so Detmers gets through 5, gives up the grand slam, you leave him in when you probably shouldn't have to go after Chapman. Wantz is a weird choice to come in, there, he did well on Friday but you should've pulled Detmers with the bases loaded and Chapman up.

 

[Lazorko Saves]

The worst part of watching delayed on mlb.tv is seeing that time bar at the bottom of the screen when I fast forward through the commercials.

At the end of the 5th, when Detmers was cruising, and yet the bar showed there was almost two hours left in the game!

Yeah, ugh.  It was like that point in a horror movie where nothing bad had happened yet, all was well, and all the characters seemed happy...

What is that Twitter account?  "Baseball Images that Proceed Unfortunate Events" or something?

[Make Angels Great Again]

We were so happy after the fifth inning.

Then the sixth inning happened.

[Stradling]

Tonight could be ugly. I’m assuming Suarez will have a long leash today and asked to go deeper into a game than usual. If he fails bad early then you’d have to think Davidson is the first guy up. That sets off a chain reaction where it’s probable that Barria or Davidson is DFAd for Canning on Wednesday. At the very least we could see Wantz sent down. Considering he’s been effective and the pen hasn’t it would be tough to send him down for 10 days. 

[fan_since79]

Yes, we can't have a 5th starter who gets lit up every time. Suarez needs to get his act together earlier rather than later. The division will be very competitive this year. Not a lot of margin for error. 

[Stradling]

27 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Yes, we can't have a 5th starter who gets lit up every time. Suarez needs to get his act together earlier rather than later. The division will be very competitive this year. Not a lot of margin for error. 

You’ll be happy to know we don’t have a 5th starter who gets lit up every time. 

[nando714]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

Yes, we can't have a 5th starter who gets lit up every time. Suarez needs to get his act together earlier rather than later. The division will be very competitive this year. Not a lot of margin for error. 

He’s only had 1 start ?

How do we know how bad he is in 2023 yet coming off a stellar 2022 2nd half 

[fan_since79]

17 minutes ago, nando714 said:

He’s only had 1 start ?

How do we know how bad he is in 2023 yet coming off a stellar 2022 2nd half 

Sorry. Very impatient with this team after 44 years as a fan, with very few consolations outside of 2002. And without Spiezio's magic in Game 6 along with Erstad and Glaus and the others, we'd have no titles.

I get frustrated more easily lately. I still hope we'll make the postseason before I depart this mortal plane. 

We'd better win this upcoming series!

[DMVol]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

Tonight could be ugly. I’m assuming Suarez will have a long leash today and asked to go deeper into a game than usual. If he fails bad early then you’d have to think Davidson is the first guy up. That sets off a chain reaction where it’s probable that Barria or Davidson is DFAd for Canning on Wednesday. At the very least we could see Wantz sent down. Considering he’s been effective and the pen hasn’t it would be tough to send him down for 10 days. 

Wouldn’t be surprised if somebody goes on the IL before Canning is brought up….pitchers pretty much always have something bothering them….part of the deal…