***Official Apple Next Generation iPhone Rumor Thread***

[nate]

They mentioned that it supports more LTE bands than any other phone.  I am not familiar with China Mobile's network but I assumed that was part of their reasoning for mentioning that.

 

As for big screens, I usually agree, until I used a GS4.  The GS3, 2, etc, had awful screens in my opinion, not very sharp, poor contrast and color saturation.  The 4 on the other hand looked great.

 

Anything 4.5-5 inches would be great to me.  I love all the new features but I have been wanting something different so I think I am going to get a Note 3 and then I can always switch back in 20 months.

[nate]

is the 5c gonna sell in the US?

 

Yes 99/199 on contract 16/32 gb.

[mrwicked]

yeah i actually read much more news on my iphone than my ipad.

bigger screen of same quality would be nice.

[mrwicked]

$549 off contract for the 5C seems questionable to me given the rationale behind the device (3rd world / emerging where carriers dont subsidize).

Edited September 10, 2013 by mrwicked

[RePLAY]

will the 5c effect the "premium" brand status that Apple has all over the world?

[mrwicked]

i doubt it, but who knows.

premium brand doesnt mean shit in countries where the phone is basically the cost of a car: ie un-buyable.

 

whats interesting to me is theyre dropping the 5 completely, like i mentioned before.

 

so now instead of 16GB 5s: $199, 5c: $99, 5: free

they are doing 16GB 5s: $199, 5c: $99, 4s: free

 

i guess thats because people would be hard pressed to get the 5c if the 5 was free, since theyre the same phone w different casing.

interesting. 

[nate]

Isn't that actually the normal way of doing it?

 

Right now it was 16GB 5 199 - 8GB 4S 99 - 8GB 4 free

 

Now instead of using the 5 with a smaller capacity at 100 they are just doing the 5C which is basically a 5 with a plastic case and some minor internal upgrades.

[mrwicked]

well its normal in pricing sure.

but its also the quickest life span of any iphone since the original.

 

whats odd though is this does nothing different in terms of availability for emerging markets.

 

the 4 did OK in india/china but was like #6 in those markets.

why would the 4s at the same price do any different?

and thus if the 4s doesnt do any different, why would the 5c which is even $100 more.

 

basically i thought the emerging market phone would be like $349 or $449 non contract, not $549

[nate]

Here is a short piece on the high price of the 5c.  Sure seems like a foolish move by Apple.

 

http://bgr.com/2013/09/10/apple-iphone-5c-price-analysis/

[mrwicked]

yeah.. im not quite sure what they're doing. 

i guess the 5c is a bit cheaper to make so theyll make more money on it than selling the 5 at $99.

maybe thats where theyre going with it.

but i was assuming some price shift to get into the emerging markets.

apple is usually fine w/ cannibalization - they just want to be the ones to cannibalize themselves (ie best the innovator's dilemma)

[tennischmp]

No pre order on the 5S wtf?

[RePLAY]

5s is new guts in an old body.

5c is old guts in a new body.

 

lol

[nate]

Some iWatch info: http://bgr.com/2013/09/11/apple-iwatch-release-date-manufacturing-issues/

 

BGR's exclusives have been pretty hit and miss so take it with a grain of salt.

 

It also seems like every year we hear about supply chain issues that don't materialize.  No pun intended.

[mrwicked]

guess wall street doesn't like it.

typical boom or bust panic - AAPL down 5%.

[nate]

I read earlier that Wallstreet made all of their stock estimates based on a 350-450 retail price on the 5c.  The high price is really scaring them away.

[mrwicked]

right. 

clearly the street and all the lame hype bloggers were wrong about apple's intentions.

i was too.

they clearly have no intention of making a "cheaper" phone whatsoever. 

just instead of current flagship vs last year flaghship, pricing is going to be current flagship vs current plastic. 

 

those 5c phones that are $549 here will be $733 in china w/ that tax markup.

crazy. 

 

i guess theyre planning on the china mobile deal being enough to get better traction out there.

[Jay]

Will people be waiting in line for the new iphone?

[nate]

They already are.

 

Rumors are pretty rampant that the 5S is going to be in very short supply at launch.  I would imagine it has to do with supply chain issues and Apple wanting to make sure China is taken care of at launch.

[mrwicked]

yeah i'd say its been a hit.

9 million iphones sold over first weekend. that's absolutely insane.

the previous record?

5 million for the 5.

 

http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/23/apples-iphone-5s-and-iphone-5c-sell-9m-units-over-opening-weekend-topping-5m-for-iphone-5-last-year/

[Brandon]

I heard this shit is dropping for close to seven bills. True?

I can never myself dropping that on an Apple product only to be told in a year when there is a software issue that "well, you have to expect phones these days to die after a year and you're out of warranty"

[nate]

It costs 700 non contract, 200 on contract.

 

The gold ones go for thousands on ebay right now because there were so few available at launch.

[Brandon]

Stupid people. Reminds me of the PS3 launch.

[nate]

Supply and demand

[Brandon]

Always, but the initial price point is stupid. I tell my girl this all the time as we debate Apple/others all the time.

[nate]

All top end phones cost $700 off contract and 200 on.  The Note 3 is even more expensive.