Rosenthal's article about Ohtani's extension

[DMVol]

19 hours ago, Duren, Duren said:

....I would wait it out till next year's trade deadline if no extension is signed.  But aggressively push for a deal as soon as possible. Obviously he and his agents know the market and their future options. And he has his own career ambitions. 

I don't know that we can wait that long....No need to do anything now, let's get through the season and see how things go....but if it is pretty obvious he isn't going to sign, you start exploring trades in the offseason....the question then becomes can you get more this winter or next July? I would think this winter....I can't see a team tearing apart its farm system for a two month rental....Might be more likely that a team would consider a megadeal for a year of Ohtani and a longer window to negotiate a deal with him...

[eligrba]

I can't imagine a more awkward conversation occurring between Minasian and Ohtani's agent than to discuss a contract extension.

[Blarg]

He is neither a superstar as a hitter or pitcher. I don't think you can pay him on combined WAR because both sides of his game he has limitations. Maybe 70 to 80% of combined WAR simply because of how the Angels have to make adjustments for his pitching schedule. Otherwise you are just paying for the hype. 

[yamsi12]

Trade ohtani at this years trade deadline. Restock the farm and hopefully get an mlb player or two out of it.

[greginpsca]

If the org is going to trade him, the longer they wait, the less they get in return.

[Stradling]

3 hours ago, yamsi12 said:

Trade ohtani at this years trade deadline. Restock the farm and hopefully get an mlb player or two out of it.

You would get prospects. If you get an mlb player or two, they won’t be very good. 

[tdawg87]

They aren't trading Ohtani. Arte will give him more than Trout if he has to. 

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

They aren't trading Ohtani. Arte will give him more than Trout if he has to. 

I kind of agree

[Angels 1961]

4 hours ago, yamsi12 said:

Trade ohtani at this years trade deadline. Restock the farm and hopefully get an mlb player or two out of it.

Lux and Gonsolin

[tdawg87]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Lux and Gonsolin

I don't know why I'm responding to this but Arte will give Ohtani 10/500 before he lets Minasian trade him to the Dodgers.

[eligrba]

Seriously, the Angels are screwed whether they sign him to an extension or trade him. 

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, eligrba said:

Seriously, the Angels are screwed whether they sign him to an extension or trade him. 

[Jay]

13 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Seriously, the Angels are screwed whether they sign him to an extension or trade him. 

But at least if they trade him they won't be paying him 10/500.

[mmc]

I’m surprised how many people seem to want Ohtani on a record setting contract.  Would be one of the dumbest things this team could do unless Arte all of a sudden is ok with going over the luxury tax

[Jay]

So how would that work? At the end of the season you try to get Ohtani to sign an extension, to avoid arbitration. Say he doesn't want to sign an extension, so you decide to trade him. Do you go to arbitration and then trade him? Or trade him without any contract?

 

[Blarg]

24 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I don't know why I'm responding to this but Arte will give Ohtani 10/500 before he lets Minasian trade him to the Dodgers.

That would be so fucking stupid to pay him that kind of money.

[eligrba]

12 minutes ago, Jay said:

But at least if they trade him they won't be paying him 10/500.

Then the Angels become the team that couldn’t win or keep Ohtani, the most impactful player in modern baseball.  That will be quite a legacy to live with.

[tdawg87]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

That would be so fucking stupid to pay him that kind of money.

Absolutely would be. But Arte gonna Art.

[eligrba]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

That would be so fucking stupid to pay him that kind of money.

The Angels will need a 200 million dollar payroll to keep Ohtani. It’s stupid because the Angels absolutely suck at finding role players.  If the Angels could have a 70% success rate at finding role players, it makes sense. So far, the Angels only seem to excel at finding shitty one dimensional players.

[Angels 1961]

26 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I don't know why I'm responding to this but Arte will give Ohtani 10/500 before he lets Minasian trade him to the Dodgers.

Ohtani is not signing with Angels. He is a smart person why would he sign with a team that year after year after makes same mistakes and lose. This will 7th straight losing season. He will test FA so it's better to trade him before he walks. If he becomes a FA will want to play on west coast and who spends and wins year after year on west coast. Trade him and get something now before he walks. How many losing seasons before fans understand a rebuild is in order. You are right Arte may not trade him to Dodgers but he may end up with them. What will change next year? Angels will need to replace 50% of rotation plus middle INF need 1 maybe 2 OF. Arte will not give him 500 for 10 years.

[Angels 1961]

33 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Angels have so many needs before they are contenders. Ohtani can help with rebuild get what you can for him.

[johndw52]

Remember him? This decision could define Minasian's career. 

[arch stanton]

I'd rather keep Ohtani and not get to the post season than trade him away or watch him go as a FA and still probably not get into the post season

[IheartLA]

Giving Ohtani a record breaking contract to a team like the Dodgers or Mets that don’t care about payroll $$ makes sense. To a team with finite resources it’s trickier. Either way we have Trout and won’t rebuild so Arte needs to pony up and raise payroll or sell the team.

[Jay]

8 hours ago, arch stanton said:

I'd rather keep Ohtani and not get to the post season than trade him away or watch him go as a FA and still probably not get into the post season

I'd rather keep him too, but not at 10/500