Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[rafibomb]

6 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I kinda think Gausman is gonna be the one they get...

If there is any truth to what Gubicza said, that plus the Giants locking in several other SPs give me a bit of a sense that there's some noise that Gausman is getting close to signing with the Angels, and the Giants are pivoting to fill out other needs quickly, including a guy who might be squeezed out of Anaheim when the Gausman news breaks, before other teams have chance to jump in. Could be Gausman is still deciding between SF and Anaheim and that's holding up final offers for Cobb too.

Perry was in Atlanta when they grabbed Gausman and turned him around from Baltimore. There's a connection there. Won't cost a QO like Ray. Better track record too. Safer than Scherzer. More upside than Stroman. 

Don't think the Angels sign Matz.

Is it wrong if I mainly want Gausman now only because Dipoto is in on him too?

[totdprods]

Just now, rafibomb said:

Is it wrong if I mainly want Gausman now only because Dipoto is in on him too?

No. I hope Dipoto has done such damage to his reputation that no FA wants to sign there. That teams look at the frequent trading and lack of cohesive clubhouse chemistry and go "eh no thanks."

That'd be about as close to poetic as could get.

Robbie Ray kinda feels like he'll wind up preferring MW or East Coast. 

Gausman also seems like he could have quite a variance in his deal. I could see 4 years, 5, years, even 6 or with options for 7, and that could allow more creativity in the deal or with backloading.

[bloodbrother]

Gausman would be awesome. Wonder if they'd still be in the market for another SP if that were to happen

[Angels 1961]

5 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Gausman would be awesome. Wonder if they'd still be in the market for another SP if that were to happen

Yes would need 1 more Cobb

[rafibomb]

3 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Gausman would be awesome. Wonder if they'd still be in the market for another SP if that were to happen

I really can’t see it. If someone told me we would get Syndergaard and Gausman in the offseason I don’t think I would have believed them. I’d rather save that money especially with other needs at shortstop, catcher and the pen.

[Jason]

Lol

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[totdprods]

56 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

I really can’t see it. If someone told me we would get Syndergaard and Gausman in the offseason I don’t think I would have believed them. I’d rather save that money especially with other needs at shortstop, catcher and the pen.

I doubt it. At that point it’d be someone super cheap like Michael Lorenzen for 1/$5m and an opportunity to be the 6th SP, or a rebound like Jake Junis, or a trade for someone with low salary and control. Someone that they think they can replicate Cobb’s turnaround last year with on the cheap. 

Edited November 24, 2021 by totdprods

[Tank]

11 hours ago, angelsnationtalk said:

if all these orioles pitchers are so good, how come their team sucks year after year?

[failos]

42 minutes ago, Tank said:

if all these orioles pitchers are so good, how come their team sucks year after year?

Because they keep trading them away.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

Report says Red's have announced they are open to discussing Sonny Gray! AGAIN.....

Ok, F' it go for it! Sign Stroman & Matz and  trade for Sonny Gray!

Then trade for the Shortstop and Catcher.

Sign the bullpen.

Rotation:

1. Stroman 4/95M - 15M year 1

2. Syndergaard  - 21M

3. Gray - 2022 - 10.2M and 2023 - 12M

4. Matz - 2/28M 

5. Ohtani 

6. Whoever is left (the AAA shuttle)

[wopphil]

13 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

Report says Red's have announced they are open to discussing Sonny Gray! AGAIN.....

Ok, F' it go for it! Sign Stroman & Matz and  trade for Sonny Gray!

Then trade for the Shortstop and Catcher.

Sign the bullpen.

Rotation:

1. Stroman 4/95M - 15M year 1

2. Syndergaard  - 21M

3. Gray - 2022 - 10.2M and 2023 - 12M

4. Matz - 2/28M 

5. Ohtani 

6. Whoever is left (the AAA shuttle)

They don’t need more than two more starters. If they traded for Gray, they could sign one more and then focus on other needs. 

[Stradling]

I have more faith in Sandoval than Matz or Gray. 

[HaloBronco]

32 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I have more faith in Sandoval than Matz or Gray. 

I Agree. last year Matz pitched 150 innings and gave up 158 hits, I'll pass we can do better. 

 

 

[Angels 1961]

36 minutes ago, HaloBronco said:

I Agree. last year Matz pitched 150 innings and gave up 158 hits, I'll pass we can do better. 

 

 

Matz good number 5 or 6 starter

[ten ocho recon scout]

6 hours ago, HanfordGuy said:

I’m guessing the union will be talking to Ohtani about extensions as well.

Sure, they can tell him whatever they want. He's in the union.

 

 

 

 

 

 

But ippei isn't

 

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[SoWhat]

Whew

[totdprods]

Wowza that’s a pretty good deal…if you’re Steven Matz.

That mid-tier FA SP class has to be licking their chops. Glad we got Syndergaard when we did. John Gray is gonna get paid, as will Alex Cobb. Stroman might safely get Wheeler money at this point. 

Gausman is my bet.

Edited November 24, 2021 by totdprods

[Angels 1961]

wow 4 years 44 mill halos will have to over spend on anyone they get

[Angels 1961]

9 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Wowza that’s a pretty good deal…if you’re Steven Matz.

That mid-tier FA SP class has to be licking their chops. Glad we got Syndergaard when we did. John Gray is gonna get paid, as will Alex Cobb. Stroman might safely get Wheeler money at this point. 

Gausman is my bet.

Gausman 7 years 140 mill

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Nice contract for Matz, good for him. I'm glad we aren't giving him that deal. 

I think Cobb will get something like 2/17-20 if that is what Matz got. But again, I have no idea just throwing random numbers out there.

[rafibomb]

Completely okay with this. Matz was the last guy I wanted from his "tier" of pitchers.