Upton rehabbing in Salt Lake starting tonight, Trout "close," but still not ready for rehab

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Just call me jaded after what they went through with Wells, Pujols, and Hamilton.

Then you should be really worried about Trout.

[Angel Oracle]

8 minutes ago, Lou said:

Then you should be really worried about Trout.

Him too

That alleged curse with the land by the Santa Ana River seems to maybe have some legs.

What other orgs have gone through this much since the beginning of the 2010s?

Edited July 21, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[Jeff Fletcher]

On 7/19/2021 at 4:18 PM, Torridd said:

I'm just wondering if the doctors have the last say, Trout, or some type of exercise test? 

Yes

[Angels Fan Forever]

9 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Yes

Yes to all three for the last say? What if the medical staff, the player and testing don't have the same recommendation. Ultimately isn't it the player who makes the call based on how he feels after factoring in all of the other information and getting medical clearance.

[Lou]

They'd be crazy to leave the decision to the player. 

[Blarg]

6 hours ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

Yes to all three? They all have to say yes to a return? That system doesn't seem likely to me. Doctors, Trout and testing may not have the same recommendation. So I think it is ultimately Trout's decision not the doctors or any field tests. He is the athlete so it should be his call based on how he feels while factoring in all of the other information.

Trout has to say he is ready but ultimately it is the doctors approval to continue activities that opens that door. 

[Angels Fan Forever]

Right, that was my point. Maybe it wasn't clear so I edited my post. The player could be cleared medically but doesn't feel he is ready.

The reality is all three work in concert I guess.

[ten ocho recon scout]

16 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Watching these games since the ASB -- they desperately need Upton's power from the right side.

Yep. This has been kind of glaring the past few weeks. What little we have in terms of offense right now is too left handed...

[Taylor]

We all have a bad case of Trout blue balls.

[Dtwncbad]

Sometimes I don’t fully understand some of these rehab assignments.

If Mike Trout is actually healthy enough to play in a competitive professional baseball game, why not just put him in the major league game?

I assume (?) much of it is that they may not have 100% of their normal timing in their first or second game back.

But I would rather have Trout in the lineup with MAYBE his timing off a little than give another 4 plate appearances to a definitively inferior, less offensively dangerous player.

[Dtwncbad]

2 hours ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

Right, that was my point. Maybe it wasn't clear so I edited my post. The player could be cleared medically but doesn't feel he is ready.

The reality is all three work in concert I guess.

The three have to work together in concert.  You don’t rush these things.  It is important to police the process if you want a nirvana result.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Yep. This has been kind of glaring the past few weeks. What little we have in terms of offense right now is too left handed...

Which is hilarious given how RHed this offense had been the previous 10 or so years.

[Torridd]

Hypothetical: What about vice versa? Let's say the player said he was hurt but the doctors couldn't find anything wrong?

[Dtwncbad]

16 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Hypothetical: What about vice versa? Let's say the player said he was hurt but the doctors couldn't find anything wrong?

No prescription necessary.

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Which is hilarious given how RHed this offense had been the previous 10 or so years.

Weve been dying for a lefty that can mash. We finally get him

#angels

[Lou]

42 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Hypothetical: What about vice versa? Let's say the player said he was hurt but the doctors couldn't find anything wrong?

If it's Rengifo, you take his word for it and put him on the 60-day IL.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Torridd said:

Hypothetical: What about vice versa? Let's say the player said he was hurt but the doctors couldn't find anything wrong?

There's quite a few players on the Angels who play like they're injured even though they're apparently not.

[Torridd]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

There's quite a few players on the Angels who play like they're injured even though they're apparently not.

Rimshot.

[Jeff Fletcher]

15 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Sometimes I don’t fully understand some of these rehab assignments.

If Mike Trout is actually healthy enough to play in a competitive professional baseball game, why not just put him in the major league game?

I assume (?) much of it is that they may not have 100% of their normal timing in their first or second game back.

But I would rather have Trout in the lineup with MAYBE his timing off a little than give another 4 plate appearances to a definitively inferior, less offensively dangerous player.

Mike Trout is a pretty extreme example. I think in 99 percent of cases a guy who hasn’t seen a competitive pitch in 2 months is actually worse than his replacement. 
 

Also there is a little bit of physical buildup required to acclimate to playing a 9-inning game. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

17 hours ago, Blarg said:

Trout has to say he is ready but ultimately it is the doctors approval to continue activities that opens that door. 

^^^^