Trumped

[Lhalo]

That's some damning rock solid testimony right there...

 

[Adam]

I’m 2 IPAs in. Not sure what the rest of my night looks like but there’s a chance I nuke this forum

[Rico]

Trump really wanted Ukraine to say they were investigating Biden.  This has been established, correct?

Aid was in fact put on hold, correct?

[tdawg87]

32 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

That's some damning rock solid testimony right there...

 

Sondland is retarded. 

He did testify under oath that there was a quid pro quo. It was his literal opening statement.

But then he says this crap and it basically makes his entire testimony worthless.

[Adam]

Nunes was pissed. That was awesome

[St1ck]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

Nunes was pissed. That was awesome

That isn't Nunes.

[St1ck]

This feels like a good place for me to remind everyone, Nunes is suing a fake cow's twitter account.

Devin Nunes demands Democrat delete tweets by Twitter cow | The Fresno Bee
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article236999224.html

[Adam]

10 minutes ago, st1ckboy said:

That isn't Nunes.

Not that one. This one

 

 

[St1ck]

15 minutes ago, Adam said:

Not that one. This one

 

 

So Schiff gave the floor to Nunes, and all he could come up with was "no." Yeah, go get him you fake farmer.

[Jason]

3 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Um I uhh....I gotta go.

Your mum got dinner ready?

[Jason]

 Am I the only one here that hasn’t paid any attention to this circus the past week?

[St1ck]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Your mum got dinner ready?

Mom! Meatloaf!

[Tank]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

 Am I the only one here that hasn’t paid any attention to this circus the past week?

Not in the least.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

 Am I the only one here that hasn’t paid any attention to this circus the past week?

nope 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

I’m 2 IPAs in. Not sure what the rest of my night looks like but there’s a chance I nuke this forum

I can't wait!

[St1ck]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 Am I the only one here that hasn’t paid any attention to this circus the past week?

Apparently you have, because "circus" is what Devin Nunes always refers to it as as. Who is Devin Nunes you ask? One of the last 5 Republican reps in California left, and also the guy that is suing a fake cow twitter account.

Devin Nunes demands Democrat delete tweets by Twitter cow | The Fresno Bee
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article236999224.html

[Blarg]

Twitter probably should be deleted but I'm afraid that might just be too much for Rico to handle.

[St1ck]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Twitter probably should be deleted but I'm afraid that might just be too much for Rico to handle.

If twitter is deleted, how else would Trump enact foreign policy?

[Rico]

16 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Twitter probably should be deleted but I'm afraid that might just be too much for Rico to handle.

After this we may as well. 

 

[St1ck]

5 minutes ago, Rico said:

After this we may as well. 

 

I first heard of this on one the Anthony Bourdain shows, and I am still fascinated by it.

Why do Mexican Americans love Morrissey so much? - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/08/why-do-mexican-americans-love-morrissey-so-much/

[LAAMike]

Assuming for a minute that the QPQ was a White House Meeting in exchange for Zelensky making a public statement about investigating either Corruption and/or Burisma and that there was no military aid as part of the QPQ as stated by Trump, then the Democrats have a problem as a "meeting or call doesn't qualify as an Official Act for the purposes of bribery prosecution"  (per the Supreme Court in McDonnel vs US).   Abuse of power and the obstruction of Congress are pretty weak arguments for something as big as impeaching a President.  

[Rico]

But military aid was held back.  Why?  

How does holding back military aid (illegally without congress' approval per the Impoundment Act of 1974) further US interests?  

Also, I like how you just brushed off Abuse of power like it's some ho-hum thing.

[tennischmp]

2 hours ago, LAAMike said:

Assuming for a minute that the QPQ was a White House Meeting in exchange for Zelensky making a public statement about investigating either Corruption and/or Burisma and that there was no military aid as part of the QPQ as stated by Trump, then the Democrats have a problem as a "meeting or call doesn't qualify as an Official Act for the purposes of bribery prosecution"  (per the Supreme Court in McDonnel vs US).   Abuse of power and the obstruction of Congress are pretty weak arguments for something as big as impeaching a President.  

You mean we should believe his text he sent saying there was no QPQ the same day he learned he was being investigated by Congress and the same day the WH got news of the whistleblower's report claiming there was a QPQ? If we would believe every criminal's denial after they got busted we would have empty jails. 

[LAAMike]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

But military aid was held back.  Why?  

How does holding back military aid (illegally without congress' approval per the Impoundment Act of 1974) further US interests?  

Also, I like how you just brushed off Abuse of power like it's some ho-hum thing.

If it is going to be simply a political issue, then abuse of power may form the basis of articles of impeachment.  But if you are to get the public to understand and support, then this seems like the wrong way to go.  Holding back aid happens all the time and seems to be part of the horse-trading that is part of the diplomatic relations between nations/governments.  There has to be an egregious and understandable lapse of conduct to get the public's support.   

[tennischmp]

24 minutes ago, LAAMike said:

If it is going to be simply a political issue, then abuse of power may form the basis of articles of impeachment.  But if you are to get the public to understand and support, then this seems like the wrong way to go.  Holding back aid happens all the time and seems to be part of the horse-trading that is part of the diplomatic relations between nations/governments.  There has to be an egregious and understandable lapse of conduct to get the public's support.   

Holding back aid to get an announcement on an investigation from a foreign power into a political rival doesn't happen all the time, at least it shouldn't, and he should be impeached for the sole reason as to deter it from happening again, by Trump or any future Democratic or Republican president. If you are going to no impeach you are basically telling Trump, go ahead do it again, do it to the actual Democratic nominee if it happens not to be Biden, and also setting a precedent for future presidents.