Pitching coach

[FanSince62]

He’s got to go...

[Billy_Ball]

Team ERA is in the Top 5 in the AL...

4th in the AL to be exact.

[Dick B Back]

3rd most walks in the AL, only trailing the White Sox and Orioles and we know how good they are. Walks will always come back to bite your ass.

Also tied for 3rd in most HRs given up. I thought this problem was supposed to gone after sweeping out the trash (Nolasco, Chavez) after last year.

[Angel Oracle]

There are two relievers in the higher minors with just 17 BBs (and 89 Ks) between them in 82 innings.

17 BBs in 82 innings?   No comprende!!!

Jeremy Rhoades and Tyler Stevens, future real MLB relievers?

[Lhalo]

Note to Angels ownership:

Please don’t fire Scott Radinsky until he can sign two 7” records I own. One being a Scared Straight album and the other being a vinyl from his Ten Foot Pole days. Long live nardcore. 

[Blarg]

It must be difficult having to work with 25 pitchers in one half of a season and get any consistent results. 

[Angel Oracle]

They are almost like an expansion team in that way.

[totdprods]

I think Eppler is going to make a move for a rental vet reliever for some spare prospect change, someone like a Clippard, Chavez, Soria, and land a relatively under-the-radar (yet successful) young MLB reliever under control, like a Tepera or Streckenrider. 

Still think adding a controllable MLB SP (or two cheap vet SPs lie Fiers and Lirano) will be in the cards too. Something to stack the pitching depth. Shift guys like Felix Pena, Lamb, and Trop into potential bullpen options instead of the rotation.

Our depth is so thin right now.

[floplag]

a pitching coach cant change someones stuff.  the starters are in my view doing well, aside from needing to stretch a little further perhaps

[Stradling]

We have a lot of guys that throw straight fastballs.  For those of you with a pitching back ground or played at a high level is it difficult to throw a cut fastball?  I thought it was a matter of putting more pressure on one finger when throwing the ball or throwing it with a finger on the side of a seam.  Obviously this could cause blisters or a strain I guess.  The other thing one of these dudes who throws 96 could do is throw some fastballs in to back guys off the plate and make them less comfortable up there.  

[totdprods]

6 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

We have a lot of guys that throw straight fastballs.  For those of you with a pitching back ground or played at a high level is it difficult to throw a cut fastball?  I thought it was a matter of putting more pressure on one finger when throwing the ball or throwing it with a finger on the side of a seam.  Obviously this could cause blisters or a strain I guess.  The other thing one of these dudes who throws 96 could do is throw some fastballs in to back guys off the plate and make them less comfortable up there.  

It seems like last year we saw a lot of our bullpen success come from guys who relied on fastball variations rather than the standard 4-seam. Norris and his cutter, Parker and his splitter, etc. I wonder if they're just not having much luck getting that gameplan to translate with this year's crop. Either their data is working or the coaching isn't getting through.

[Dick B Back]

43 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

We have a lot of guys that throw straight fastballs.  For those of you with a pitching back ground or played at a high level is it difficult to throw a cut fastball?  I thought it was a matter of putting more pressure on one finger when throwing the ball or throwing it with a finger on the side of a seam.  Obviously this could cause blisters or a strain I guess.  The other thing one of these dudes who throws 96 could do is throw some fastballs in to back guys off the plate and make them less comfortable up there.  

Its not that hard and it just takes a little getting used to throwing a cut fastball. If I remember correctly (and I’m old), your fingers are closer together and a little to the right of where they would be for a 4 seamer and I like my thumb on the bottom of the ball but I have big hands/long fingers.

The seams rub a little differently on the release, but you get used to it.

[T.G.]

Throwing a cut fastball is easy - all you need is a razor blade.

[Blarg]

Oh God no! Do not let any of the Angels pitchers get near a razor blade. @Angel Oracle you want to fill them in on the details?

[Angelsfan1984]

 

2 hours ago, Dick B Back said:

Its not that hard and it just takes a little getting used to throwing a cut fastball. If I remember correctly (and I’m old), your fingers are closer together and a little to the right of where they would be for a 4 seamer and I like my thumb on the bottom of the ball but I have big hands/long fingers.

The seams rub a little differently on the release, but you get used to it.

Its all about finger pressure and is extremely easy to pick up. I preferred to hold mine with my middle finger wrapped firmly on the ball going with the seams on the inner half while the index finger was close to it however the tip of the finger doesn't touch the ball. You can throw it with the same velocity and arm slot and it would cut and drop just enough to miss the bat.

[Dick B Back]

4 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

 

Its all about finger pressure and is extremely easy to pick up. I preferred to hold mine with my middle finger wrapped firmly on the ball going with the seams on the inner half while the index finger was close to it however the tip of the finger doesn't touch the ball. You can throw it with the same velocity and arm slot and it would cut and drop just enough to miss the bat.

Yep, sorry you are correct, I forgot about the middle finger pressure.

[Blarg]

Using your middle finger properly is always important. 

[Adam]

Nagy jogs to the mound like he has AIDS in his arms

[Dick B Back]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Using your middle finger properly is always important. 

[Angel Oracle]

21 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Oh God no! Do not let any of the Angels pitchers get near a razor blade. @Angel Oracle you want to fill them in on the details?

I know that I should remember this one.    Somehow, I'm not, getting old I guess. 

 

Edit:  Just saw an old news item, where in 1997, Halos starter Allen Watson cut his wrist while trying to open a bottle of beer.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/662721-the-50-dumbest-injuries-in-sports-history

[T.G.]

Next pitching coach...

[Dick B Back]

Nope, next pitching coach...

[Angelsfan1984]

New pitching method to avoid dehydrated elbows.

[T.G.]

Vlad could hit that.

[Angel Oracle]

2 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

New pitching method to avoid dehydrated elbows.

No inverted W

Carl Lewis?

He gets partial credit for getting the ball to bounce near the plate.