Trout's WAR

[Halos of Anaheim]

Bryce Harper is also 6'3. Taller bodies take longer to fill out. Trust me, I know.

I'm 6'3 as well. To look like you actually lift with a shirt on at 6'3, you'd have to be around 225..which is where Harper is. He'll probably end up being in the 240's if he stays relatively lean.

[Ray McKigney]

Babe Ruth had a shit load of body fat and it didn't matter. It just made him stronger.

[Lifetime]

I'm probably one of the best critics of physiques/body fat you'll get on this site considering I'm a bodybuilder. Whatever your whiny, uninformed ass has to say..just know that I'm right and Trout's body fat IS higher than it was last year, and his skill set has slightly decreased this year; again due to being a little out of shape.

 

When did Trout misplay balls so close to the wall last year? When he's jumped this season, it looks like he isn't even the same player. Another great example I recall (some here will remember this game that happened this season, some won't). Trout hit a ground ball to the short stop and it bounced off the guys glove, he didn't grab it cleanly. He still ended up throwing Trout out at 1st, last year he would have beat that throw even if the guy had grabbed it cleanly. Trout says he's at 9 percent body fat..doesn't mean it's true. Every non-body builder knows that athletes always lie about their bodyfats (or are just unaware of how to measure it). Most players are usually 4-5% higher than what they think.

 

Lifetime and Shane, you are so in over your heads right now. 

I didn't see this gem before LOL. By the way, I've been in the fitness industry for over 25 years. I know a thing or two about this subject Mr Ima Bodybuilder.

[yk9001]

[jsnpritchett]

Is that Trout or a young Scioscia?

[yk9001]

 

Photo day Feb 29, 2012

[tdawg87]

Trout's WAR with childhood obesity.

[EDinTUSTIN]

I don't know why this pleases me, but Trout's WAR is now up to 1.3 - tied with Bryce Harper. Compare their raw stats:

 

Harper: .320/.412/.660, 9 HR, 1 SB

Trout: .270/.341/.492, 4 HR, 4 SB

 

The difference? Well its all in the defense (Fld, or Fielding Runs) and baserunning (BsR, or Baserunning runs):

 

Harper: -1.8 Fld, -0.9 BsR

Trout: 2.4 Fld, 1.9 BsR

 

Now consider that Trout is more likely to improve his triple-slash numbers; I'm guessing he ends up with something north of .290+/.370+/.500+, around 25 HR and 40 SB. Right now he's on pace for a 7+ fWAR; I see no reason with those improvements he can't end with 8+.

 

And Harper? Obviously he's the real deal and I think is going to be mashing the ball like no other for the next decade, but I still don't expect a 1.072 OPS all year. Maybe .950? He should also improve his Fld and BsR, so I think can continue his overall 7+ fWAR pace.

 

The bottom line is that it could be a dog-fight, but I'd place my money on Trout. He's just go more room to improve.

The bottom line also is 'how're their respective teams faring?' Ultimately that is what matters most.

[Lifetime]

Not when comparing players Ed. 

[yk9001]

Trout decided to match Cabrera's Triple Crown with his own Triple Chin.

[Adam]

I look forward to the Trout's WAR-fest softball tourney this year

[bloodbrother]

 

Photo day Feb 29, 2012

 

And it's already been noted that he came into camp last year under his usual weight because of whatever illnes/flu he had. He got his weight back up to his usual playing weight as the season went on

[EDinTUSTIN]

Not when comparing players Ed. 

I know, it is just that for me the only thing that matters is how they are helping their team to succeed.

[EE_]

 By the way, I've been in the fitness industry for over 25 years.

 

LMAO

[Lifetime]

Ya, it's hilarious. 

[yk9001]

And it's already been noted that he came into camp last year under his usual weight because of whatever illnes/flu he had. He got his weight back up to his usual playing weight as the season went on

 

And kept the weight going in the offseason.

[Lifetime]

I know, it is just that for me the only thing that matters is how they are helping their team to succeed.

Right, but how they are doing indivually is how they are helping their teams. Whether or not their teams are successful due to the rest of the moving parts does not diminish their accomplishments or contributions. 

[bloodbrother]

And kept the weight going in the offseason.

 

Don't care what he does in the offseason. The weight change looks very minimal today from where he was at the end of last season

[Ray McKigney]

I'm probably one of the best critics of physiques/body fat you'll get on this site considering I'm a bodybuilder. Whatever your whiny, uninformed ass has to say..just know that I'm right and Trout's body fat IS higher than it was last year, and his skill set has slightly decreased this year; again due to being a little out of shape.

 

When did Trout misplay balls so close to the wall last year? When he's jumped this season, it looks like he isn't even the same player. Another great example I recall (some here will remember this game that happened this season, some won't). Trout hit a ground ball to the short stop and it bounced off the guys glove, he didn't grab it cleanly. He still ended up throwing Trout out at 1st, last year he would have beat that throw even if the guy had grabbed it cleanly. Trout says he's at 9 percent body fat..doesn't mean it's true. Every non-body builder knows that athletes always lie about their bodyfats (or are just unaware of how to measure it). Most players are usually 4-5% higher than what they think.

 

Lifetime and Shane, you are so in over your heads right now. 

 

Which one are you?

 

[Halos of Anaheim]

I didn't see this gem before LOL. By the way, I've been in the fitness industry for over 25 years. I know a thing or two about this subject Mr Ima Bodybuilder.

Lmao, It's clear that my bodybuilding knowledge is far superior to yours. Nice ''credentials'' though, I really believe you. 

 

@Ray, I'm the one who towers over you in height, weight and confidence. 

[Troll Daddy]

This should be good.