Gameday Thread: Angels @ Rangers 9/21 5:05

[Robrock30]

Angels 
Lineup 9/21
5:05 PST

LAA:Jered Weaver(R) (11-12, 5.17)
TEX:Derek Holland(L) (7-8, 4.93)

 

1. Yunel Escobar(R) 3B
2. Mike Trout(R) CF
3. Albert Pujols(R) DH
4. Andrelton Simmons(R) SS
5. Jefry Marte(R) LF
6. C.J. Cron(R) 1B
7. Gregorio Petit(R) 2B
8. Carlos Perez(R) C
9. Shane Robinson(R) RF

 

1. Carlos Gomez (R) CF

2. Nomar Mazara (L) LF

3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF

4. Adrian Beltre (R) DH

5. Rougned Odor (L) 2B

6. Jonathan Lucroy (R) C

7. Mitch Moreland (L) 1B

8. Elvis Andrus (R) SS

9. Jurickson Profar (S) 3B

[Angel Oracle]

Soooo tempting with the first pitch to douchebag Gomez.......................

[mtangelsfan]

And our clean up hitter.................................

Andrelton Simmons!

[Guest]

The Rangers are the biggest douchebags in baseball. 

[Angel Oracle]

I wondered why Cron is hitting 6th vs a lefty.    Then I saw the 1-13 lifetime against Holland.

[Robrock30]

Oracle,

I had suggested that the Angels acquire Carlos Gomez for LF at the ML pro-rated minimum when he was DFAed by the Astros and started a post on the subject.  

I will root for the Rangers or the Red Sox in the postseason as I have in previous years when the Angels are eliminated.

 

 

 

[Angel Oracle]

Maybe Gomez does bring some clubhouse value, as insinuated elsewhere on here.    Still, at what point though does he cause one of his own teammates to be harmed through his actions on the field? 

[eligrba4ever]

GO ANGELS!!! Go Jered Weaver!!!

GAME 152!!

Sure, Jered, you have a tougher lineup to navigate than Holland has, but you can get back to a personal .500 and maybe finish above it if you keep the ball in the park and the Angels in the game. Make a miracle at 85 mph!!! Maybe even 87 mph!!!!

Prevent a sweep in the Metroplex!!!

Come on, Albert!!! Don't give up now!! Get to 600, or as close as you can by 162.

Go Mike Trout!!! Keep it up for 10 more games and you'll join Mike Trout (2012) as the first two-time 10 WAR guy ever. You be at 10 WAR entering tonight.

Go Zero!!! Spark a rally or two. Relax, CJ, and take Holland to the woodshed for a change.

 

 

[eligrba4ever]

Congratulations to IE 66er outfielder Michael Hermosillo for making the honorable mention list on Yahoo! Sports' All-Minor League team for 2016. Just think. Somebody found a Class A+ Angel worth mentioning on an honors list. You might not see another one this season.

[Oz27]

I'm normally not all that fussed by lineup construction, especially in a game which means nothing for us. But it's a little perplexing that Cron walks three times last night then gets bumped down to the sixth spot, even though it's against a left-handed starter.

[mulwin444]

6 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

I'm normally not all that fussed by lineup construction, especially in a game which means nothing for us. But it's a little perplexing that Cron walks three times last night then gets bumped down to the sixth spot, even though it's against a left-handed starter.

And Simmons batting clean-up is just....odd.  I mean, why?  You have Cron and Marte with legit extrabase power.  

[eligrba4ever]

1 minute ago, mulwin444 said:

And Simmons batting clean-up is just....odd.  I mean, why?  You have Cron and Marte with legit extrabase power.  

As Oracle points out, Cron can't hit Holland. 1 for 13 lifetime. Simmons is hot lately.

[Oz27]

I would REALLY hope Scioscia isn't setting lineups based on 13 at-bat sample sizes against an opposing pitcher. That would be crazy.

[eligrba4ever]

3 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

I would REALLY hope Scioscia isn't setting lineups based on 13 at-bat sample sizes against an opposing pitcher. That would be crazy.

Against one pitcher over several seasons is a pretty good indicator.

[mulwin444]

Cron hasn't been able to hit Holland well in a total of 13 ABs...that's like 3 starts...was it when Cron was struggling to hit in general when he faced Holland? 

 

Last time he faced him, on April 30th, he faced him twice - tripling off him and lining out:

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX201604300.shtml

 

I really hope that's not Mike's reasoning

[Chuck]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

And our clean up hitter.................................

Andrelton Simmons!

LOL. Reminds me of when Scioscia used to bat OP and Willits 3rd. 

[Oz27]

5 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

Cron hasn't been able to hit Holland well in a total of 13 ABs...that's like 3 starts...was it when Cron was struggling to hit in general when he faced Holland? 

 

Last time he faced him, on April 30th, he faced him twice - tripling off him and lining out:

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX201604300.shtml

 

I really hope that's not Mike's reasoning

Yep. Surely that isn't the way an MLB manager is approaching it. It is small sample size noise which means absolutely nothing. The only time I would put any stock in one player's stats against an opposing pitcher would be if they had faced them a lot that year (40 PAs plus) and the numbers against them were extremely good or extremely bad. Even then I would be reluctant, but any sample size lower than that is meaningless.

[Angel Oracle]

Maybe he's drawing lineup spots out of a hat now?

[tomsred]

Geez guys, Scioscia's got Simmons batting cleanup for a reason, he's sticking his most in your face controversial player right now in the most prominent position, kind of like "here, deal with this jerkoffs."  It has nothing to do with what should be done statistically, If he knocks in a few runs tonight, that will totally piss off the Rangers. 

[CaliAngel]

Is Calhoun hurt? Getting a day off?

The hunt for 100! (loses)

[eligrba4ever]

1 minute ago, CaliAngel said:

Is Calhoun hurt? Getting a day off?

The hunt for 100! (loses)

Daddy-to-Be still waiting for the Baby Red Baron to come in for a landing.

[eligrba4ever]

Weaver going for No. 150! Good incentive to keep the ball down and in the park. Weaver would be the second Angels pitcher to win 150.

[Billy_Ball]

1 hour ago, Robrock30 said:

Oracle,

I had suggested that the Angels acquire Carlos Gomez for LF at the ML pro-rated minimum when he was DFAed by the Astros and started a post on the subject.  

I will root for the Rangers or the Red Sox in the postseason as I have in previous years when the Angels are eliminated.

 

 

 

As an Angel fan, you should NEVER root for the Red Sux or STRangers under any circumstance.

[Sam Sanchez]

2 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

And our clean up hitter.................................

Andrelton Simmons!

He does have a near 1.000 OPS in the last 7 games!

[Billy_Ball]

Jose Mota just reminded of this