A Shoe-In for a Trade?

[Jeff Williams]

I've vented about Scioscia's handling of Shoe this month.  Ironically, he's at such a value right now that we'll see some interesting names floating about for him.  Any contender wants that while Eppler is in a unique, opportunistic position of fielding offers, at a high price.  The farm is bare, we know that, now they must ponder whether to trade him.

     

[Chuck]

I can see it happening. 

What are some contending teams that desperately need SP?

[Oz27]

I'm really starting to buy his resurgence as legitimate and if that's the case he will have enormous value in the offseason if we keep him until then. I am increasingly thinking we should go down that route, even though there is obvious risk involved.

[Angel Oracle]

I'm more in Oz' camp.

One thing to consider is that not many pitchers having the splitter as their main out pitch have long careers as a starter.

 

[TroutBaseball]

Let him pitch exactly 6innings every time and rack up the Quality Starts and Kershaw-like K/BB. The Angels can't seem to get him a win no matter what so you might as well protect his stat line.

[Torridd]

I think we should keep him and Escobar has been a good leadoff guy. I'd rather not have Calhoun go back there.

[19HALO71]

I honestly believe that Shoe has figured it out. Maybe it's the mechanics or he is just letting it fly, I think we're seeing what Shoemaker is going to be. I say keep him and let's ride this out. Unless we are just overwhelmed by an offer, hold onto him until the trade deadline.

Go Halos!!!

[ksangel]

With it looking more likely that Haney and Richards will be out for the remainder of this year (and being realistic - questionable for next year) and no top of the rotation pitchers on the staff this year (Chacin? Lincecum? Santiago? Skaggs?) or in the minors (Nate Smith?) to step in/up this year or next why trade the only decent pitcher the Angels have?

 

Potential 2017 rotation only has Shoe, Santiago and possibly Skaggs at this time...so can't imagine taking Shoe away.

 

Plus he only makes $530,000 and is only just up for arbitration for the first time after this season.

[Troll Daddy]

Trading our best pitcher under club control for another pitch under club control to fill a void in our farm is a great idea. 

[Troll Daddy]

Richards and Heaney are both having MRI's today. We should get a update on them soon. 

Crossing fingers

[Chuck]

24 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Richards and Heaney are both having MRI's today. We should get a update on them soon. 

Crossing fingers

I thought that was yesterday?

[nate]

59 minutes ago, Torridd said:

I think we should keep him and Escobar has been a good leadoff guy. I'd rather not have Calhoun go back there.

This team is a couple years away from winning and neither of those two will be on the team at that point.  Better to trade them now and get something.

[bloodbrother]

I think you hold onto Shoe for now but look to move him in the offseason(Same With Santiago who can hopefully pitch lights out the 2nd half). There is no reason to keep Escobar beyond the trade deadline.

[ksangel]

Unless a team is willing to give up their top prospect(s) for Shoe no thanks.

Only team that would do that is the Angels...maybe the Angels could trade Shoe to themselves?

[ukyah]

the angels are colossally fucked. trade everybody. sell the team. start over. wherever trout goes, i can root for them too. dual citizenship!

[Troll Daddy]

43 minutes ago, ksangel said:

Unless a team is willing to give up their top prospect(s) for Shoe no thanks.

Only team that would do that is the Angels...maybe the Angels could trade Shoe to themselves?

The Angels two ex-top prospects aren't  the on the same level as other teams. So I would pass on trading with the Angels.

[DMVol]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

Richards and Heaney are both having MRI's today. We should get a update on them soon. 

Crossing fingers

Might want to uncross your fingers and read the Sports page this morning....

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/progressive-720750-garrett-ultrasound.html

[Troll Daddy]

Just now, DMVol said:

Might want to uncross your fingers and read the Sports page this morning....

I just did ... sounds like great news for Richards and Heaney not so much yet. 

[DMVol]

Just now, Troll Daddy said:

I just did ... sounds like great news for Richards and Heaney not so much yet. 

Not sure it's really good news (yet) on Richards, but at least it's not bad, like Heaney.....sounds like Heaney goes under the knife after the All Star Break....

[Troll Daddy]

6 minutes ago, DMVol said:

Not sure it's really good news (yet) on Richards, but at least it's not bad, like Heaney.....sounds like Heaney goes under the knife after the All Star Break....

Richards not out of the woods but 'progressive healing'.

If Richards goes under the knife the Angels will more the likely want him to sign a contract extension. 

[DMVol]

4 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Richards not out of the woods but 'progressive healing'. 

Hard to know what that means exactly but at least it doesn't sound too bad....if the ligament is completely torn through (which is what I think the diagnosis was), "progessive healing" could mean a lot of things....we'll see....

[Amazing Larry]

"Progressive healing" sounds like some type of new age alternative medicine.

 

[Adam]

I think every strategy and decision they make should be with 2018 in mind not next year. 

[Troll Daddy]

7 minutes ago, Adam said:

I think every strategy and decision they make should be with 2018 in mind not next year. 

Reason enough not to rebuild. 

Good idea

[Second Base]

The issue is, if we trade him, who replaces him going forward? Next year we're already going without Weaver and Wilson, there's a decent chance there's no Richards or Heaney too.

That leaves us with Tropeano, Skaggs, Santiago, Nate Smith and ____. It also leaves us with virtually no depth. This year is a perfect example why a pitching staff needs to be at minimum 8 deep.