Josh Hamilton Career Over?

[JAHV76]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/06/josh-hamilton-torn-acl-surgery-rangers.html?fv-home=true

[tdawg87]

Nah. He'll milk it until his contract is over. Coke doesn't buy itself.

[arch stanton]

Career over? This thread is 15 months late.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

His career has been over for a couple of years. It's the cash flow that isn't over. Too bad that we couldn't have turned him back into a productive player like the Rangers did.

[Troll Daddy]

I would assume the Angels have disability insurance on him. This possibly could save the Angels mucho dinero. 

Good News

[Oz27]

Just now, Troll Daddy said:

I would assume the Angels have disability insurance on him. This possibly could save the Angels mucho dinero. 

Good News

You would assume incorrectly.

Bad News

[Troll Daddy]

2 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

You would assume incorrectly.

Bad News

Explain Lucy

[nando714]

It's over but it's not really over 

[Ohtaniland]

10 minutes ago, nando714 said:

It's over but it's not really over 

Josh Hamilton will never play MLB again. He doesn't want to play again and the Rangers don't want him. He's a post steroid mess that Arte is going to continue paying for this season and next. 

[Oz27]

43 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Explain Lucy

It's not insured.

[Troll Daddy]

2 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

It's not insured.

Why?

[Oz27]

Just now, Troll Daddy said:

Why?

There's a similar discussion in another thread now but I'm 99 per cent sure we are one of the teams which opts not to pay for insurance on our contracts. I can't find it but I'm pretty sure I remember stories being done on us choosing not to insure the Hamilton deal.

[mrwicked]

32 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

There's a similar discussion in another thread now but I'm 99 per cent sure we are one of the teams which opts not to pay for insurance on our contracts. I can't find it but I'm pretty sure I remember stories being done on us choosing not to insure the Hamilton deal.

the angels.

not the sharpest tool in the shed of baseball organizations.

[fan_since79]

If any team should be buying insurance on its players, it's the Angels.

Injuries seem to find this team like the sunrise finds the east.

 

[Ohtaniland]

6 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

If any team should be buying insurance on its players, it's the Angels.

Injuries seem to find this team like the sunrise finds the east.

 

Hamilton is really the Mayhem guy in the Allstate Insurance commercials.

[Oz27]

12 minutes ago, mrwicked said:

the angels.

not the sharpest tool in the shed of baseball organizations.

I don't know where I stand on contract insurance. Some teams insure every contract, some insure a few and some insure none. I haven't seen any evidence to say which one is best. Insuring contracts is a REALLY expensive thing to do.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Tim raines' dip in performance on coke puts hamitlons post coke numbers to shame.

[CaliAngel]

Yes his career is over, and it was over before he even signed with the Angels.

Dude knew exactly what he was doing, and Arte was dumb enough to believe him.

Perform for a couple years, find a sucker to offer a huge contract, then eff off baseball and enjoy the paychecks doing nothing.

[Tank]

5 years/125 million for that bum. yikes. hope arte learned a really valuable lesson the hard way from this one.

that said, signing such a high risk guy as hamilton and NOT insuring him would have been even more stupid than the years and money they gave him. are we sure his contract wasn't insured?

[Docwaukee]

From what I've read, Josh Hamilton didn't really even like playing baseball.  

[CaliAngel]

From what I got to see when Josh played on the Angels, it was blatantly obvious almost immediately.

[Stradling]

The reason the Angels and most teams don't insure contracts is its 50 cents on the dollar to insure.  So that would mean you pay for Josh 5 years $192.5 million, if he never misses an entire season.  It might have made since to insure contracts back in the day but now that we're talking hundreds of millions it's not really reasonable.  

[John Stellman]

I thought he retired years ago!

[Oz27]

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The reason the Angels and most teams don't insure contracts is its 50 cents on the dollar to insure.  So that would mean you pay for Josh 5 years $192.5 million, if he never misses an entire season.  It might have made since to insure contracts back in the day but now that we're talking hundreds of millions it's not really reasonable.  

It varies in that you can get policies to cover 50 per cent of a contract, or much more than that. Some only kick in if a player misses an entire season, others kick in if he misses a couple of months. So my understanding is the costs vary considerably but without good numbers to back it up I would be thinking not insuring is the best way to go.

[nando714]

8 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Josh Hamilton will never play MLB again. He doesn't want to play again and the Rangers don't want him. He's a post steroid mess that Arte is going to continue paying for this season and next. 

Like I said it's over but it's not really over bc hes not going to leave 25+ million on the table next season.