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Hilary or Trump?


Hilary or Trump?   

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  1. 1. If you had to vote for either, who would it be?



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It seems to me that someone making $16k a year is going to have a tough time forking over another $416 a year in taxes when that money would be more helpful for themselves than others.

If you're only making $16k a year, you're within striking distance of the poverty line. Why take more money from this person?

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AJ you steadfastly downplay and deny all possible negative outcomes of progressive ideas.

How can anyone have a rational discussion with someone who has such a perspective?

 

That's simply not true, though. I have said many times that such "progressive" ideas like income tax have, as you say, "negative outcomes," but are necessary evils - given our current system. I am not a big fan of Obamacare, see problems with welfare in general, etc etc. But the alternative offered by the right ranges from completely unrealistic to horrible.

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People these days scare too easily.

c'mon, this coming from the guy who is 1 trillion % behind Obama made us Socialist, Obama is indoctrinating our children, Obama has killed us all, Obama is going to fund ISIS and bring refugees to kill us all.....should I keep going?

 

This is not being on Obama's knob but just showing how ridiculous the right looks when they spread these things and then backtrack, nope wasn't me libs just made this all up in their heads. 

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c'mon, this coming from the guy who is 1 trillion % behind Obama made us Socialist, Obama is indoctrinating our children, Obama has killed us all, Obama is going to fund ISIS and bring refugees to kill us all.....should I keep going?

 

yes keep going you are hilarious

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But there is nothing Trump could do that scares you? It scares me people actually think this way

 

i'm not saying that at all.

 

as adam said, these guys have to run things through congress, and the chances of their wacky ideas getting passed isn't very high.

 

to date, trump has lacked a lot of details about his ideas ("we're gonna build a wall!!").  not a good plan for success with the voters, though it plays well on tv.

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That's simply not true, though. I have said many times that such "progressive" ideas like income tax have, as you say, "negative outcomes," but are necessary evils - given our current system. I am not a big fan of Obamacare, see problems with welfare in general, etc etc. But the alternative offered by the right ranges from completely unrealistic to horrible.

don't you think our income is taxed enough? giving more money to those that have never exhibited a propensity to curb exorbitant waste is just more of the same crap everyone is sick of from our career politicians.

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i'm not saying that at all.

 

as adam said, these guys have to run things through congress, and the chances of their wacky ideas getting passed isn't very high.

 

to date, trump has lacked a lot of details about his ideas ("we're gonna build a wall!!").  not a good plan for success with the voters, though it plays well on tv.

Besides the wall he said he is going to do something, just nobody knows what that something is.

 

Obama - "Change"

Trump - "Something"

 

I think change and something are pretty synonymous. 

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If he becomes president I'd be willing to bet he does get the wall built. He'll probably make Mexico pay for it too. 

 

We send them like $400 million in foreign aid each year.  Just take it out of that.

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