Joyce & Murphy or Nava & Gentry?

[zenmaster]

I'm also sad to admit it that I'd probably rather have the first 2 than the 2nd 2 going into this season. I know it's hard to put up worse numbers than we had last year in left field but I'm not sure this year is looking to be much better. Which of these 2 awesome casts of characters would you rather have on opening day 2016?

[Docwaukee]

poo and snot or vomit and piss.  hmm.  

[tdawg87]

Ask Mike to reach directly into the back of his underpants and pull out a left fielder.

[Lou]

The 2nd pair. At least they still have a chance, however so slightly, at producing

If I had to watch Joyce play in an Angels uni one more time, I'd punch cals in the ovaries

[Lou]

then poo, snot,vomit and piss on him

Edited January 19, 2016 by Lou

[halosfan1970]

I'm also sad to admit it that I'd probably rather have the first 2 than the 2nd 2 going into this season. I know it's hard to put up worse numbers than we had last year in left field but I'm not sure this year is looking to be much better. Which of these 2 awesome casts of characters would you rather have on opening day 2016?

 

David Murphy hit .265/.281/.400 in 162 plate appearances for the Angels in 2015. His 2016 option was for $7m. You are remembering his time here far more kindly than it deserves.

[ksangel]

Maybe MLB would allow Trout to play both positions and bat twice using a provisional runner to replace him when he's up again.

 

Or other words the choices are quite nauseating.

[Oz27]

Joyce and Murphy aren't a platoon pair as they're both left handers. But given the choice between Murphy and Cowgill or Nava and Gentry I'm taking the first one. As hard as it is to fathom, I fear we have made our LF disaster worse than it was in the second half of last year.

[NachoPop]

But....but...but.... Choi

Surely they cant be worse than last year?

[zenmaster]

But....but...but.... Choi

It's funny how excited some here get over someone no one else wanted.

[tomsred]

It's funny how excited some here get over someone no one else wanted.

 

Leonardo Choi in left field:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keRCt81khSA

[jsnpritchett]

It's funny how excited some here get over someone no one else wanted.

 

I've been saying this all along.  Maybe he will turn out to be something, but the sudden hype around him by some on here seems odd. Never heard a peep about him until we picked him up.

[Oz27]

I've been saying this all along.  Maybe he will turn out to be something, but the sudden hype around him by some on here seems odd. Never heard a peep about him until we picked him up.

Grant Green's career AAA OPS is 48 points higher than Choi's. How the hell is he worth the slightest bit of hype?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Personally, I didn't believe that Murphy was such a horrible player that he should be non-tendered. Joyce, yes, but not Murphy. He certainly isn't a great player, but on the surface it appears that his production is head and shoulders above the pair that has been brought in.

[Stradling]

Grant Green's career AAA OPS is 48 points higher than Choi's. How the hell is he worth the slightest bit of hype?

Well, when your off season moves consist of Nava, Gentry, Soto and Pennington along with a few other weird outfielders, oh and some dude named AL AL, you might as well get off on a dude called Choi.

[jsnpritchett]

Grant Green's career AAA OPS is 48 points higher than Choi's. How the hell is he worth the slightest bit of hype?

 

He's the bright, shiny new thing, and some people around here get all jazzed up over that.  Is he worth taking a shot on in spring training?  Sure, why not?  But just assuming that he's going to come in and contribute in a meaningful way seems like a stretch.

[Guest]

self-immolation. 

[zenmaster]

The 4 that I mentioned in the OP make Freese look like a HOFer. Sad times.

[Turd Ferguson]

The fact that this question is even being posed, weeks before pitchers and catchers report no less, is really depressing.

[Angel Oracle]

Murphy for $7 million option? No way

Murphy for $2 million? Maybe

[AngelsLakersFan]

It's funny how excited some here get over someone no one else wanted.

 

It is literally the only thing people could try to get excited over.

[Inside Pitch]

Grant Green's career AAA OPS is 48 points higher than Choi's. How the hell is he worth the slightest bit of hype?

 

Age and parks....   

 

Green's first taste of AAA came at age 24 -- he spent a season in Sacramento, then three AAA seasons at SLC -- a park with a run index of 117.  Choi's first taste of AAA came at age 22, in Tacoma, where the most favorable index based on handedness is 92.   Maybe more importantly Choi has managed an OBP of .379 in AAA to Green's .354 - despite hitting 30 points lower..   Choi's 50 BB in AAA is more than half of Green's total number of walks and he's done it in nearly 1200 fewer at bats.  His 14.9 BB% is nearly triple what Green pulled off last season -- and his K rate (20.9%), was significantly lower than Green's 31.8

 

While not worthy of "hype", that difference in OPS is pretty meaningless.

[Oz27]

Age and parks....

Green's first taste of AAA came at age 24 -- he spent a season in Sacramento, then three AAA seasons at SLC -- a park with a run index of 117. Choi's first taste of AAA came at age 22, in Tacoma, where the most favorable index based on handedness is 92. Maybe more importantly Choi has managed an OBP of .379 in AAA to Green's .354 - despite hitting 30 points lower.. Choi's 50 BB in AAA is more than half of Green's total number of walks and he's done it in nearly 1200 fewer at bats. His 14.9 BB% is nearly triple what Green pulled off last season -- and his K rate (20.9%), was significantly lower than Green's 31.8

While not worthy of "hype", that difference in OPS is pretty meaningless.

I'm not suggesting he isn't a better hitter than Green, just pointing out that the excitement about his ability is being seriously overblown. There is a chance he's somewhat useful for us, but his AAA numbers don't inspire tremendous confidence (yes I know his BB and K rates are very good but overall things still aren't great) and of course he has practically zero power.