Better to hope we get crushed?

[Greenbaumer]

As a Chargers fan, I was SHOCKED that Norv Turner and GM AJ Smith came back last year. I told my wife I hoped the team would just bomb so we could finally move on to a new regime. Horrible fan? Yes and no. I took a big step backwards at my last job because I needed a different type of experience which helped me land my new job.

Whether its Scioscia, Butcher, Dipoto...whatever, change is needed. It's not just about this season, it's the fact that we continually miss the playoffs recently. Is it better to just continue the skid until a change. Hs to be made? I'd rather lost the next ten and make something happen later in the year than to be 12 games out at theAS Break with the same issues and no hope for the future.

[Blarg]

I am sure the 101st was hoping to get crushed in Bastogne to teach high command that they needed a change in battle planning.

 

 

Try and top that AngelOracle.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

No I don't hope my team gets crushed.

 

As far as the Chargers go they should have never hired Turner in the first place but as a Broncos fan I'm glad they did. 

[Brent Maguire]

I never want to see the Angels lose. With that said, it's clear a change needs to happen so another loss or 2 in a row would probably force that to happen. 

[Jobu]

This is AngelsWin.com.

[Tyler]

I don't ever want to lose, no matter what the circumstances may be.

 

Definitely sounds like a Chargers fan though, so I'll give you that.

[WallyWorld]

i'm rooting for a complete collapse to force Arte/Dipoto's hand.  Forest for the trees, people.

[IEAngelsfan]

 

I am sure the 101st was hoping to get crushed in Bastogne to teach high command that they needed a change in battle planning.

 

 

Try and top that AngelOracle.

Nuts!

[Inside Pitch]

i'm rooting for a complete collapse to force Arte/Dipoto's hand.  Forest for the trees, people.

 

 

What if they are the two people most responsible for what's going on?  Not saying they are, but there is NO DENYING, that Dipoto chased some saber principles and right now -- it's not working out.

 

As ugly as this is right now, it's got to play out for a bit before they can start casting real blame.

[mota_madness]

lose? no way. i am hoping that we start streaking.  Even though i want Scioscia and butch fired, it would be nice to see the team turn it around with what they have. but thats a perfect world and we all know that the hammer is gonna fall sooner or later. hopefully sooner than later.    

[Brandon Wing]

It's kind of a self defeating attitude to take. Losing to hope for change to get better. I might be going out on limb, but that usually doesn't work. I just hope the Angels win, and if they don't, as a fan, I expect changes to be made.

[AZMike]

I don't ever want to lose, no matter what the circumstances may be.

 

Definitely sounds like a Chargers fan though, so I'll give you that.

 

Los Angeles Astros of Anaheim 

[WallyWorld]

It's kind of a self defeating attitude to take. Losing to hope for change to get better. I might be going out on limb, but that usually doesn't work. I just hope the Angels win, and if they don't, as a fan, I expect changes to be made.

 

they're a lot closer to being awful than they are to being great.  It's just unrealistic to think that they're going to magically turn it around.  Mediocrity is the enemy.

[WallyWorld]

What if they are the two people most responsible for what's going on?  Not saying they are, but there is NO DENYING, that Dipoto chased some saber principles and right now -- it's not working out.

 

As ugly as this is right now, it's got to play out for a bit before they can start casting real blame.

 

I do believe Arte is at least partially to blame, but he's not going anywhere.  I also believe that whatever problems exist with the roster construction, the 25 guys I watch out there on a nightly basis look incredibly unmotivated and unprepared to play, and it's not just this year.  That's on Scioscia.

[Halos of Anaheim]

Do you guys really think changes will be made if were 10 games under .500 by the end of the month? I think we absolutely have to be 10+ back before the AS for changes to be made, and by then it might be too late.

[tdawg87]

I don't WANT anyone to get fired. So no, I don't want this team to lose.

 

If they continue to lose then yes, someone should (and probably will) be held accountable. This is not inherently a "good" thing though.

[Brian Ilten]

I want Scioscia gone more than anyone here.  I was calling for his head back when we were winning 3 division championships in a row.

 

That being said;  There is NO WAY I will ever hope the Angels lose.  No way.  No how.

[WallyWorld]

Do you guys really think changes will be made if were 10 games under .500 by the end of the month? I think we absolutely have to be 10+ back before the AS for changes to be made, and by then it might be too late.

 

that's why I'm secretly pulling for a nose-dive ASAP.  If this team really became a train-wreck by the end of April (and we're not that far from that being the case), I think changes would be made.  I either want that to happen or they miraculously turn things around and go on a tear - it's just that the former feels much more realistic, given what we've seen so far.  What I would hate to see happen is for the team to marginally improve and just play mediocre, uninspired ball the rest of the way, good enough to not be an embarrassment but not bad enough to spur any changes.

[tomsred]

I'm hoping I'll get into a car wreck this afternoon, I will learn from it and be a better driver in the future.  Don't go anywhere near the I-405 today.

[Angelsjunky]

I dabble with these thoughts but am inconclusive.

[WallyWorld]

and I'll add that I think this superior "a real fan would never root for his/her team to lose" attitude is silly. another 85-87 win season doesn't do this team any good and just delays any sort of necessary change.  This team is seriously broken, and yet people continue to hope against hope that it will all just magically fix itself.  It's like trying to win a car race with a flat tire.  Just take the ****ing pit stop and fix the car.

[mtangelsfan]

that's why I'm secretly pulling for a nose-dive ASAP.  If this team really became a train-wreck by the end of April (and we're not that far from that being the case), I think changes would be made.  I either want that to happen or they miraculously turn things around and go on a tear - it's just that the former feels much more realistic, given what we've seen so far.  What I would hate to see happen is for the team to marginally improve and just play mediocre, uninspired ball the rest of the way, good enough to not be an embarrassment but not bad enough to spur any changes.

I think the Angels should have losing seasons for the next ten years, that way we can get multiple top draft choices and then be good in the mid-twenties.

[Jimmag]

I am taking the 5 freeway tonight.

 

Thanks for the heads up tomsred.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

I am sure the 101st was hoping to get crushed in Bastogne to teach high command that they needed a change in battle planning.

Try and top that AngelOracle.

Does he get extra points for LB mentions?

[AZMike]

and I'll add that I think this superior "a real fan would never root for his/her team to lose" attitude is silly. another 85-87 win season doesn't do this team any good and just delays any sort of necessary change.  This team is seriously broken, and yet people continue to hope against hope that it will all just magically fix itself.  It's like trying to win a car race with a flat tire.  Just take the ****ing pit stop and fix the car.

 

This. 

 

We should've made the necessary 'changes' this last offseason. Not wait until we dig ourselves into too deep of a hole to get out of first. As a fan I will cheer for the Angels to win every time they play, whether I agree with tactical decision by the manager, or strategic moves by the front office or not.