Bernie Sanders

[Jason]

Much.

 

He would be considered middle left in most of the rest of the civilized world. 

Just out of curiosity, what of his views would you say are moderate?

[mtangelsfan]

Yea and we say we are a "Capitalistic society" and we all know that's a load of bullshit

 

ha ha  "look over there".

[TobiasFunke]

I just figured we were on a "titles that aren't true" train

Edited August 19, 2015 by TobiasFunke

[Make Angels Great Again]

The difference is that when we hand over 75% of our paychecks to the government, we can blame ourselves.

 

 

I know this is hyperbole...but you do realize wealth inequality is one of Sanders' biggest issues right?

[hen3ry]

Of course we are really an oligarchy. 

 

I prefer the term plutocracy.  Because it totally deserves to still be a plan... wait, wrong rant.

[mtangelsfan]

I know this is hyperbole...but you do realize wealth inequality is one of Sanders' biggest issues right?

 

exactly, and he is going to achieve that by taxing the shit out of the middle class.  They can claim that isn't the case but that is where the money is.

[wopphil]

exactly, and he is going to achieve that by taxing the shit out of the middle class. They can claim that isn't the case but that is where the money is.

This is what the left just can't comprehend. They think high taxes are the way to achieve a strong middle class.

[Glen]

This is what the left just can't comprehend. They think high taxes are the way to achieve a strong middle class.

Thanks for speaking for the left. Maybe for an encore you can tell us what black people think.

[Schildog]

This is what the left just can't comprehend. They think high taxes are the way to achieve a strong middle class.

 

we think stagnant pay while doing the tasks of multiple people will increase the strength of the middle class. 

[mtangelsfan]

Here is a good article about the differences between here and Europe.

 

http://www.forbes.com/2006/05/20/steven-landsburg-labor_cx_sl_06work_0523landsburg.html

 

 

Couple of things in this article:  I was surprised that the average american only works 25 hours per week.  Also, the euros seem to love vacations.  They spend  up to 16 weeks on vacation a year.  (I think if I was in a car with my boys fighting each other for 16 weeks I would be in jail for killing them both)

[Jason]

Thanks for speaking for the left. Maybe for an encore you can tell us what black people think.

Most I know have enjoyed "Straight Outta Compton".

[Schildog]

Here is a good article about the differences between here and Europe.

http://www.forbes.com/2006/05/20/steven-landsburg-labor_cx_sl_06work_0523landsburg.html

Couple of things in this article: I was surprised that the average american only works 25 hours per week. Also, the euros seem to love vacations. They spend up to 16 weeks on vacation a year. (I think if I was in a car with my boys fighting each other for 16 weeks I would be in jail for killing them both)

Parent company is Swedish. We have to work around they're long summer vacations. We don't always get the fourth of July off due to financial reporting. It infuriates me.

[TobiasFunke]

If you were a Euro MT you wouldn't be driving, you'd be flying to another country for a franction of what it costs you to drive somewhere here in the states.

[mtangelsfan]

Being stuck on a plane with them fighting would be worse.

 

Maybe a train.  Problem with trains is all the damn smokers over there.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

If you were a Euro MT you wouldn't be driving, you'd be flying to another country for a franction of what it costs you to drive somewhere here in the states.

 

This.  We've got 2 offices overseas and on average those employees take 'holiday' much more regularly and can hop on a plane for a fraction of the cost of what we pay here to go from one state to the other.  Flying from Spain to the UK cost me under $100 and employees in our Asia office told me some of the airlines offer weekend getaways that get you to Thailand and other places for under $200.  You can take a few days off before or after the weekend and take a 4 day trip with a short travel time.  

[red321]

Europe has always had more vacation time. I can remember a co-worker in the early 90's moving to Germany and was shocked that he started with 6 weeks vacation and about 2 dozen holidays. Think we calculated he started with almost 2.5 months off a year.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Yeah both companies and individuals in Europe seem to value it and make it a priority a lot more.

[mtangelsfan]

You can't smoke on trains in Europe.

 

Things must be different than 15 years ago.  Back then I took a train from Amsterdam to Antwerp and there were smokers everywhere on that train.  It was miserable.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I traveled on the Eurail and some local trains back in 2007 in Germany and Netherlands and I don't recall anyone smoking.  I had family that traveled in Europe back in the early 80's and they remember the cigarette smell as much as anything but that was also when you could smoke on planes.    

[mtangelsfan]

Well this was around 2001.  They were definitely smoking.

 

One of the things that is weird to me is how expensive gasoline is over there vs. jet fuel.  Not sure how they operate so much less expensively than our airlines do.

[TobiasFunke]

A lot has changed since September 11 MT, never forget...

[mtangelsfan]

They stopped smoking on trains in Europe because of 9/11?

[HeavenlyHalos]

I was in Europe last year and smoking was definitely not allowed on the trains I was on in Germany, Czech Republic, Belgium, Netherlands, UK, and Ireland. About the vacation time, I remember an Aussie (yes I know that's not in Europe) telling me it's required by law for them to have at least 4 weeks off which I thought was pretty awesome. I wish we all had 3 months off like we had in school growing up.

[HeavenlyHalos]

German father's day also kicks the American version's ass. They get together with their friends that are also dad's and get drunk. I was in Munich during this at the famous Hofbrauhaus and the German guys made fun of this French dude who ordered the small bier. I feel that making fun of the French is one thing most people can bond over.  One guy also started talking about the German's hatred for Bush, love of Obama, and 9/11 conspiracies. They can also drink in the streets there which is pretty fun. Berlin is also stuck in some weird early-80s punk scene where half of the T-shirts, especially on the Eastern side, are either of The Clash or Sex Pistols.

[Jay]

At least they have good taste in music