authority problems

[shellback]

what is with mlb umpires? the last two nights i watched home plate umpires that were borderline incompetent. alfonso marquez is not an mlb quality umpire. neither was the guy at home plate in the series opener against the yanks. the whole deal with inconsistent strike zones has become ridiculous to the point of being unwatchable. both weaver and richards had the intensity to win squeezed out of them by these two- if the only time your going to get a strike call is by throwing a meatball down the middle to the greatest hitters in the world, well the results will be obvious.

are these umps just homer biased or are they, as i suspect, just more weak sisters in the long running tradition of joe west and doug eddings ?

watching the home plate umps in those two games makes me wonder if the outcomes weren't predetermined.

[DowningRules]

Not predetermined...you're thinking of the NBA.  Just bad umpiring.  There's also a bad combo of keeping the old guard employed while also attempting diversity.  So, there's a combo of laziness/entitlement mixed with a lack of experience.

 

In each case, the MLB has made it hard for itself to fire anyone.   

[Blarg]

If the umpiring was so incompetent that the only pitches that were called strikes had to be center plate then the Angels are far more incompetent not taking advantage. The Yankees, it appears, don't suffer from the same problem.

[shellback]

If the umpiring was so incompetent that the only pitches that were called strikes had to be center plate then the Angels are far more incompetent not taking advantage. The Yankees, it appears, don't suffer from the same problem.

 

yea, the strike zones were quite different for the two teams. you would think in a line of work that demands accuracy, consistentcy would be a valued skill.

[laagamer]

Shit post is shit 

[LAAFANofLA]

Had to log in to say lol

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Had to log in to say lol

 

Brilliant post. Thanks for chipping in.

[Guest]

It is well known that the Yankees get the equivalent of 5-10 free wins a year due to umpire bias. This is a major reason why they have double the world series championships of the next closest franchise.

[shellback]

Shit post is shit 

 

thanks for contributing.  and thanks for you attempts at improvement.

Edited June 7, 2015 by shellback

[Stradling]

It is well known that the Yankees get the equivalent of 5-10 free wins a year due to umpire bias. This is a major reason why they have double the world series championships of the next closest franchise.

5-10 wins, haha, what a joke.

[Guest]

5-10 wins, haha, what a joke.

 

Admittedly that's probably come down compared to the late '90s, especially now that they have instant replay. 

[m0nkey]

I'm not sure if this is a serious thread or not

[Angel Oracle]

Bring in the WWE authority.

[Glen]

...authority always wins.

[yk9001]

yea, the strike zones were quite different for the two teams. you would think in a line of work that demands accuracy, consistentcy would be a valued skill.

 

 

I've read this forum for 10 years, and people have complained about the strike zone every single year, if not most games.

 

My unscientific research says that the inconsistent strike zone negatively affects the Angels more than the opponent at a rate of 99.7:1

 

What an unlucky streak the Angels have been on!!

[Angel Oracle]

...authority always wins.

and always does what's best for business.

[cysomeawfulpitcher]

You're asking why umpires were not doing their job right at a Yankee game?

[ettin]

Scioscia has had a long standing feud with a handful of umpires. It wouldn't surprise me if one or more of them squeeze his pitchers and hitters every so often. Eddings in particular has a long, illustrious history with Mike and West isn't far behind. In particular Scioscia is well versed in the rulebook (which I think a lot of MLB managers aren't as familiar with as they should be) and he is quick to point out mistakes even among the umpires which I'm sure they just love.

[Guest]

Scioscia has had a long standing feud with a handful of umpires. It wouldn't surprise me if one or more of them squeeze his pitchers and hitters every so often. Eddings in particular has a long, illustrious history with Mike and West isn't far behind. In particular Scioscia is well versed in the rulebook (which I think a lot of MLB managers aren't as familiar with as they should be) and he is quick to point out mistakes even among the umpires which I'm sure they just love.

...you mean like that time Bo Porter tried two consecutive pitching changes without the first pitcher facing a batter, and all four umpires allowed it?

[Stradling]

That is incompetence not some feud with Scioscia.

[HeavenlyHalos]

[katrinab]

i don't know if its necessarily biased towards 1 team more than another, but i do think the umpiring has been pretty bad this year in general