9th Circus rules against California farmers

[fan_since79]

The Delta smelt, which is the size of a finger, must be preserved at all costs! The farmers be damned!

 

http://news.yahoo.com/appeals-court-rules-against-california-growers-over-delta-171127349--finance.html

 

 

[mtangelsfan]

lol.  and people wonder why farmers need government aid.

 

We don't need food to feed our country.  People out there aren't hungry.  There aren't starving children out there.

 

Morons.

[mp170.6]

I was up in the valley this past weekend.  The effects of the drought are very obvious and depressing. 

[Blarg]

Starving children are not being any more fed from farm production as homeless people getting off the street by new house being built.

[mtangelsfan]

Starving children are not being any more fed from farm production as homeless people getting off the street by new house being built.

 

This is simply an untrue statement.  Many times people give out of their abundance.  In fact, right now the company I work for, since it is an agricultural co-op, is having a fundraiser that is getting grain and other foods from growers.  This food will go directly to food banks and shelters in our area.

[Adam]

This is simply an untrue statement.  Many times people give out of their abundance.  In fact, right now the company I work for, since it is an agricultural co-op, is having a fundraiser that is getting grain and other foods from growers.  This food will go directly to food banks and shelters in our area.

 

Sounds FAKE and FALSE!

[fan_since79]

[mtangelsfan]

I would also add that Eric's comment completely ignores the law of supply and demand.  The more supply of food there is, the price of the food will go down, making it more affordable for lower income folks.

[mtangelsfan]

Sounds FAKE and FALSE!

 

No food for gays or atheists though.

[Lhalo]

I would also add that Eric's comment completely ignores the law of supply and demand.  The more supply of food there is, the price of the food will go down, making it more affordable for lower income folks.

 

We have such an overabundance of crops in this country from government subsidies that supply and demand went out the window years ago.

[TobiasFunke]

I was up in the valley this past weekend.  The effects of the drought are very obvious and depressing. 

I know man, the SFV has gotten pretty sad.

[Blarg]

I would also add that Eric's comment completely ignores the law of supply and demand.  The more supply of food there is, the price of the food will go down, making it more affordable for lower income folks.

 

Production is fixed so that the margin is enough to afford to grow new crops. Your ignorance of supply and demand is showing.

[Lhalo]

I know man, the SFV has gotten pretty sad.

 

It's ok, they have pron to fall back on.

[mtangelsfan]

Production is fixed so that the margin is enough to afford to grow new crops. Your ignorance of supply and demand is showing.

 

LOL, I work with this stuff daily.  My father in law farms.  But you know all.  

[mp170.6]

LOL, I work with this stuff daily.  My father in law farms.  But you know all.  

 

Hey mt, what's the deal with ethanol subsidies these days?  Are they still pouring cash into corn?

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Awful lot of smelt haters here.  

[Jay]

This sounds like a good story for Fox News.

[mtangelsfan]

Hey mt, what's the deal with ethanol subsidies these days?  Are they still pouring cash into corn?

 

Yes, and its really stupid.  Whenever they try to alter the market they screw everything up.  For instance this year propane shot through the roof.  A big reason for that was ethanal.  Propane is used to dry corn for ethanol.  So much of it was used to dry corn that it caused a shortage.  Propane was over 200% up from last year.

 

Law of unintended consequences.

[Blarg]

LOL, I work with this stuff daily.  My father in law farms.  But you know all.  

 

So I am sure he is all for a glut of whatever his crop is so the market crashes that way he can't afford fuel for his tractor.

 

My cousin runs one of the largest ranches in Montana. The last thing he wants is to have a price war with his neighbors.

 

But I bow to your relative position in this field.

[mtangelsfan]

Your cousing wants the government telling him and other farmers when, where and what he can/can't grow?

[Blarg]

Your cousing wants the government telling him and other farmers when, where and what he can/can't grow?

 

It is in his best interest that the market is stabilized since the weather isn't.

[arch stanton]

Is it not possible to get water from a source that won't kill the fish?

[St1ck]

Should farmers really be allowed to wipe out an entire species? 

[mtangelsfan]

It is in his best interest that the market is stabilized since the weather isn't.

 

He's the only one I ever heard of then.  Most just want to be left alone.  That is what crop insurance is for.

[mp170.6]

Yes, and its really stupid.  Whenever they try to alter the market they screw everything up.  For instance this year propane shot through the roof.  A big reason for that was ethanal.  Propane is used to dry corn for ethanol.  So much of it was used to dry corn that it caused a shortage.  Propane was over 200% up from last year.

 

Law of unintended consequences.

 

I'm still scratching my head why corn was subsidized for ethanol purposes to begin with.  Isn't sugar cane far more efficient?