WTF North Korea [NSFW]

[NrM]

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/7A8Aj

From the top post on reddit right now

[wopphil]

It is the most ****ed up country in the world, worse even than the Muslim nations. Its leaders are ****ed up, its people are ****ed up, and it is propped up and allowed to survive only because of the evil Chinese and Russians (two other ****ed up nations).

Be happy you are blessed enough to be American. I don't care what anyone says, this is the best nation on earth. And yet most of us take that for granted. Be happy that you live in a country run by decent men and women (even if you don't agree with their politics), and that you have more liberty and opportunity than just about anywhere else on this earth.

[arch stanton]

I set the bar for my government a little higher than "at least it's not North Korea".

[Tank]

Dennis Rodman needs to see these pictures.

[Taylor]

That sounds like something straight out of Hunger Games. Holy moly.

 

Why are we afraid of going into North Korea? Is it retaliation from the Chinese that keeps us away?

[HaloMagic]

That sounds like something straight out of Hunger Games. Holy moly.

Why are we afraid of going into North Korea? Is it retaliation from the Chinese that keeps us away?

They will nuke Japan if we invade. Guaranteed. Edited January 10, 2014 by HaloMagic

[mancini79]

They will nuke Japan of we invade. Guaranteed.

 

and N Korea doesn't have any influence on oil prices.

[arch stanton]

You can't have good without evil so we need to always keep a bad guy handy for a national tragedy to be named later.

[notherhalo]

this image was a 60 minutes piece

[wopphil]

I don't believe they have capable nukes, or any ability to deliver them.  They have an antiquated military with antiquated equipment.  They have no money to sustain a war (and no money to buy the fuel necessary to run their antiquated equipment).  If done correctly, the South and the U.S. could wipe them off the map, conventionally, pretty damn quickly. 

[Amazing Larry]

People said the same things about Iraq.

[mancini79]

It would be Vietnam all over again with N. Korea, China and Russia against the US. We got our butts kicked.

[mtangelsfan]

I don't believe they have capable nukes, or any ability to deliver them.  They have an antiquated military with antiquated equipment.  They have no money to sustain a war (and no money to buy the fuel necessary to run their antiquated equipment).  If done correctly, the South and the U.S. could wipe them off the map, conventionally, pretty damn quickly. 

 

It's amazing to me that there are still people out there still so willing to go to war. 

 

I say gear up man.

[tdawg87]

I feel bad for anybody unfortunate enough to be born into that shithole of a country.

[HaloMagic]

I don't believe they have capable nukes, or any ability to deliver them. They have an antiquated military with antiquated equipment. They have no money to sustain a war (and no money to buy the fuel necessary to run their antiquated equipment). If done correctly, the South and the U.S. could wipe them off the map, conventionally, pretty damn quickly.

I don't know what a capable nuke is but they've tested nukes that exploded and shit just like every other nuke ever. They are at least as destructive as the nukes we dropped on Japan in WW2, possibly 2-4 times as powerful. That may not be much compared to the 50+ megaton bombs the US and Russia were developing a few decades ago but I'd be pretty pissed if Japan invaded Mexico and Mexico decided to drop a little 15 kiloton bomb on my front yard.

As far as a delivery system, they have scuds which can definitely make it to Japan as well as some systems that either haven't been publicly tested or publicly adapted to hold a nuclear weapon that could shoot an object as far as Guam, and possibly even Hawaii or Alaska. The problem with their delivery systems is they aren't smart like ours. Guam and Hawaii are pretty much completely safe because of that. And I wouldn't think Sarah Palin should be worried, either. It's just too far for them to guide it. But those scuds can definitely reach Japan with decent accuracy. And putting a nuke atop one isn't some huge challenge for them to overcome. I have no doubt that they could shoot a nuke to Japan today.

Edited January 10, 2014 by HaloMagic

[HaloCory22]

North Korea might be able to fire off a nuke via scud or other delivery system, but I'd have to imagine the US and allies know exactly where these locations are. To avoid any type of nuclear response, they have to attack those locations first. They aren't Russia where you take out 3 launch pads and then they fire from the other 497. A well planned strike on the launch pads could cripple them in minutes and avoid any allied country being attacked.

Edited January 10, 2014 by Cory

[HaloMagic]

A scud is launched from a mobile platform, not a launch pad.

[Adam]

We should have made a deal with Black Rambo before he offed himself

[HaloCory22]

A scud is launched from a mobile platform, not a launch pad.

Doesn't change the point of my post though.

[HaloMagic]

Well they are on mobile platforms. So that means a couple of things. First, they could move one to an underground bunker that our conventional weapons couldn't penetrate. Maybe an old mine or a cave. You can't really do that with a launch pad. Second, in the hypothetical of the US knowing exactly where the launch sites are then yes, I'd feel a little bit at ease. But that hypothetical is exactly that, a hypothetical. And I'd be a lot more willing to believe it if their launching capability required launch pads and not mobile platforms. All they have to do is move it and hide it. There is zero chance we are tracking every North Korean scud launcher. And third, what if we bomb these sites and feel really good but then, uh oh. We missed one. Just one. But still one. Whoops.

Edited January 10, 2014 by HaloMagic

[IEAngelsfan]

The problem with invading is not N. Korea, but China.  They're supported by China and is seen as their protector.  The US would have to get a nod of approval from the Chinese and I just don't see that happenning. 

Edited January 10, 2014 by IEAngelfan

[Amazing Larry]

A scud is launched from a mobile platform, not a launch pad.

 

They can also be launched from animals.

 

[mtangelsfan]

The problem with invading is not N. Korea, but China.  They're supported by China and is seen as their protector.  The US would have to get a nod of approval from the Chinese and I just don't see that happenning. 

 

No, the problem with invading anywhere is that we would be sending more young men and women to kill and be killed.

 

 

 

Never to be the same. The stakes better be damn friking high for that.

[Adam]

Matt Damon

[arch stanton]

I've stood at the DMZ. It's not a pleasant place. The reality is that North Korea would collapse in days from defection and even they know that. So it's a guarantee that they would do whatever damage they could on the way down. At this point that damage is not worth the potential benefit in the minds of the powers that could make it happen.