Toby Keith: "No guns in my restaurant"

[LBHalos17]

http://www.newser.com/story/179819/toby-keith-no-guns-allowed-in-my-restaurant.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=inbox&utm_campaign=newser

 

I'm rather surprised by this story, if it's true.  He's been one of the pro-gun people for years.  Hopefully, there's more to the story from him.

[mtangelsfan]

I'm pro gun rights and I don't own one.  I wouldn't want anyone bringing a gun into my house either.

 

It's just as stupid to get mad at someone who doesn't want a gun on their property as it is to get mad at someoen who does.

[Amazing Larry]

Nobody's sayin' you can't own a gun.

 

Nobody's even sayin' you can't carry a gun.

 

All we're sayin' is you can't carry a gun into the restaurant!

[mtangelsfan]

One right should never trump another.  My private property is my private property.  I should be able to dictate what is allowed there and what isn't.

[Mudville]

I believe that is the point of the article. Although it is legal to carry in Virginia, Keith wants his place gun free. Just like if he declared it a smoke free restaraunt, it is tge owner's perogative how he runs his business. The rift is those that think gun advocacy means a person sets no limits on themselves or others in their place of business.

[mtangelsfan]

Then those gun advocates are stupid.  The second ammendment doesn't say people have to bare arms.

[eaterfan]

One right should never trump another.  My private property is my private property.  I should be able to dictate what is allowed there and what isn't.

 

Aren't you arguing that your property rights trump my right to bare arms?

[mtangelsfan]

Aren't you arguing that your property rights trump my right to bare arms?

 

In my house?  I guess I am. Don't you believe I should have that right?  You would have the right not to enter.

[eaterfan]

In my house?  I guess I am. Don't you believe I should have that right?  You would have the right not to enter.

 

I agree with you, but I just wasn't clear on what your argument was.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Aren't you arguing that your property rights trump my right to bare arms?

 

The way my high school civics teacher put it, your rights end where mine begin. Pack heat all you want in the confines of your own home, and any public areas where the law allows it. Leave it at home if you're coming to my place. Otherwise you can stay at home.

 

Besides, if you want to wear sleeveless shirts, that's your business.

Edited December 28, 2013 by Vegas Halo Fan

[mp170.6]

I've never understood the hyperfocus on guns. 

 

Nobody bans knives and yet, if you stab somebody in the appropriate place, a knife can be just as deadly. 

[HaloMagic]

Same thing with banjos. And yet there is hardly ever any focus on those. It's crazy because you can get so many rounds off with a banjo before having to reload. Same thing with a knife. Not to mention knifes and banjos literally have no purpose other than to kill people. Why do we allow them?

[St1ck]

I've never understood the hyperfocus on guns. 

 

Nobody bans knives and yet, if you stab somebody in the appropriate place, a knife can be just as deadly. 

 

 

The steaks at "I Love This Bar & Grill" are so tender, that knives are banned as well.

[BaseballMom]

The comments on the facebook page are hilarious.  "If I can't take my gun to protect myself, guess I won't be going"  

 

Seriously?  If you thought a restaurant/bar was so dangerous that you needed a gun to protect yourself, I wouldn't be going either.

[arch stanton]

How am I supposed to get the waitress' attention without a gun?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

How am I supposed to get the waitress' attention without a gun?

 

A coworker of mine uses grenades.

[tdawg87]

I don't think there will be too many minorities eating at a Toby Keith establishment, so the need for guns is at a minimum.

[arch stanton]

If by minority you mean non-redneck then I concur.

[LBHalos17]

I'm pro gun rights and I don't own one.  I wouldn't want anyone bringing a gun into my house either.

 

It's just as stupid to get mad at someone who doesn't want a gun on their property as it is to get mad at someoen who does.

The only issues for me are-

1.  It's a public place that falls under local/State laws.  I don't care enough to research the laws there to see if he's within his rights to trump open-carry or whatever the State law is.  And anyway, I agree that he has the right to refuse service in his establishment.

2.  If somebody has a CCW permit and wants to go to the restaurant, they probably wouldn't even know about it until a bad guy disrespects the rule by waving his gun around first.

 

I have found it necessary to impede a waiter/waitress to get their attention in the past, but usually just waving both hands in the air works just fine.  I've been on that side before though, so I cut them a lot of slack.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

The only issues for me are-

1.  It's a public place that falls under local/State laws.  I don't care enough to research the laws there to see if he's within his rights to trump open-carry or whatever the State law is.  And anyway, I agree that he has the right to refuse service in his establishment.

 

From the original article:

 

 

It's legal in Virginia for people to go into bars and restaurants with a gun, but owners can opt out of the rule, as the singer has done at Toby Keith's I Love This Bar & Grill. 

Edited December 28, 2013 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Jason]

Nobody's sayin' you can't own a gun.

 

Nobody's even sayin' you can't carry a gun.

 

All we're sayin' is you can't carry a gun into the restaurant!

"Wearing that guitar don't make you right"!

[Stradling]

I think it is the only right choice for a business owner. I am sure there are very few shootings where guns are legal, but as an owner I wouldn't allow guns in my place. All it takes is for one guy to get shot in your business and you will be sued because of either allowing it, or not having security, oh and if you have security, you will be sued for not having enough security. Seems pretty logical to me.

[Jason]

I am a gun owner and a supporter of gun owner's rights but basic ethics of gun safety teaches you that firearms and alcohol do not mix. In fact nothing mixes well with alcohol. I'm sure that this has a lot to do with his decison to not allow them and I think it's reasonable.

[Tank]

I don't think I'd want to patronize a restaurant that DID allow patrons to bring along their weapons.

[Spencer]

nothing mixes well with alcohol

hookers and blow beg to differ