Who should/will go?

[tennischmp]

Go.... I go with Scioscia

 

 

[tennischmp]

Added a Who will go? I say Dipoto to that.

[Taylor]

Team Scioscia or Team Dipoto?

[Tyler]

Taylor has tennischmp on ignore.

[Jimmag]

Should - Scioscia

Will- Neither

[tennischmp]

It's all good. This is so important we need 2 polls. Hopefully if Arte sees the threads, he will go with the majority

[Jimmag]

lol

 

He was only 13 minutes off though.

[Docwaukee]

I voted the opposite in this poll

[Mark68]

Scioscia should go

 

Both might go.

[Taylor]

Apparently Craig is the one who will be canned.

[stormngt]

Wow another thread about someone being fired.

[kevinb]

If I was to pick I would say both. I like Mike I think he is a decent manager but.. he has had his time here. Dipoto is a mess and should go first but I think bringing in a new GM and letting that GM pick his own manager would be the best decision. If I could keep one of Dipoto or Mike I would keep Mike 1000%. Dipoto is horrible. Nothing he has done here has worked out. 

[Agalloch]

Scioscia should go, I wouldn't be opposed to firing Dipoto but I'd like to let him have another year with a new manager and since he only has 1 year left, why not?

[WallyWorld]

new GM = Kim Ng

new manager = Darin Erstad

new pitching coach = Mark Langston

new bullpen coach = Troy Percival

 

done.

[Jay]

I wonder if Trout has any preference? If so, the Angels should strongly consider going in that direction.

[Ohtaniland]

new GM = Kim Ng

new manager = Darin Erstad

new pitching coach = Mark Langston

new bullpen coach = Troy Percival

 

done.

 

Kim Ng would probably say "No thanks"

[Angelsjunky]

I'm pretty much now on the Fire Scioscia bandwagon. This team needs new leadership. I'd like to give Dipoto one more offseason and see what he might do without the Scioscia friction.

 

That said, while I voted that Scioscia should go, I voted that Dipoto will go. Maybe that's more my fear, but I think one of the two will go and that its more likely it will be Dipoto, who is an easier scapegoat given the poor pitching staff. Plus its hard to ignore that $25 million owed to Scioscia.

[Cool_Herc]

Fourteen years is far too long for a manager and it's clear that Mike's run is over...has been for years. I don't care how much money he's due. Cut your loses, pay him off and begin the process of moving forward.

 

Doesn't matter who the GM is, doesn't matter what the payroll is, doesn't matter who's traded for or what free agents are signed in the off-season; if Scioscia is managing this team next season it'll assuredly be more of the same - only then we'll be looking at 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance and there'll be no recourse but to fire him at that point anyway. Do it now and get on with it.

[Ohtaniland]

I'm pretty much now on the Fire Scioscia bandwagon. This team needs new leadership. I'd like to give Dipoto one more offseason and see what he might do without the Scioscia friction.

 

That said, while I voted that Scioscia should go, I voted that Dipoto will go. Maybe that's more my fear, but I think one of the two will go and that its more likely it will be Dipoto, who is an easier scapegoat given the poor pitching staff. Plus its hard to ignore that $25 million owed to Scioscia.

 

AJ, I'm with you about Scioscia but Dipoto is going to need more than one more offseason to fix this team. It's pretty bad.

[Angels Never Die]

It all really depends on what's actually going on and the vision that would replace it. If there's really trouble between Scioscia and Dipoto, then obviously someone needs to go, and in that case, I'm saying at least Scioscia needs to go, because while I'm sympathetic to the fact that manager's jobs are heavily influenced by the decisions of the GM's, I think a team needs to ultimately be a GM's vision, and therefore managers need to be more subservient to that. Does that mean Dipoto has earned a continued chance? In an ideal world yes, but there's definitely questionable decisions here, and it's hard to be patient when this much money has been invested. So if I have to make a decision based on the little information we have, I say let Scioscia go, and only fire Dipoto if you have a good reliable replacement set up with a coherent and consistent vision for the entire organization (from scouting to ML manager.)

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Does that mean Dipoto has earned a continued chance? In an ideal world yes, but there's definitely questionable decisions here, and it's hard to be patient when this much money has been invested.

 

There is increasing evidence that both the Pujols and Hamilton signings were Arte Moreno's calls, and the money committed to those two deals have severely limited what Jerry Dipoto could do about the pitching situation. Dipoto was a pitcher himself, and I'm sure that he knew going into the season that the Angels were in a tenuous position on the mound. Significant DL time by Weaver and Vargas depleted an already razor thin starting staff, and injuries in the bullpen further stretched what was at best a borderline relief corps. We joke about Dipoto dumpster diving for players to fill out the roster, but given our budgetary constraints (which are very real, despite what some people believe) and the weak farm system, I'm not sure what else he is to do.

[CaliAngel]

Scioscia should go but neither will be gone.

[Mark68]

After everything that is coming out now...

 

Arte should be gone. But he's not exactly going to fire himself.

[NJHalo]

Both should go. Time to wipe the slate clean.

DiPoto has done pretty much nothing right

Mike cannot live on past success. That get out of jail free card was cashed in years ago

[FabulousFabregas]

As long as Scioscia gets fired I'm happy, which you guys all probably already know.