Nevin or Melvin

[ArkyAngelsFan]

On 9/20/2023 at 12:09 AM, Stradling said:

This is MUCH closer than I imagined at 17-2 in favor of Melvin. 

It's 36 to 6 right now. Does that mean a certain poster has somehow voted for Nevin 6 times?

~ArkyAngelsFan~

[jsnpritchett]

12 minutes ago, ArkyAngelsFan said:

It's 36 to 6 right now. Does that mean a certain poster has somehow voted for Nevin 6 times?

~ArkyAngelsFan~

He actually hasn't voted at all. 

[arch stanton]

Mine isn't a vote for Nevin as much as a vote against Melvin and the Padre mediocrity over which he presides

Edited September 22, 2023 by arch stanton

[WicketMaiden]

I'm a maybe.

[Tank]

i'm waiting for a "couldn't care less" button in this pole.

[arch stanton]

I was just perusing the standings and noticed that the Padres are under .500 with a +97 run differential. You really want that manager in Anaheim?

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, arch stanton said:

I was just perusing the standings and noticed that the Padres are under .500 with a +97 run differential. You really want that manager in Anaheim?

Over Nevin? Yes of course. 

[Blarg]

My best friend is a Padres fan and the are 1-12 in extra innings games. He complains nobody knows how to bunt or hit a sacrifice fly to win a game. They are all playing three outcome baseball. Sound familiar? 

[greginpsca]

When Melvin was with the A's, they didn't  believe in sacrificing. It was all about OBP and walks. Looks like he has embraced Beane's philosophy in San Diego.

[Just Sayin]

I’d rather see George Costanza manage the Angels than Phil Nevin.

 

 

[Just Sayin]

Or maybe get George’s father….Frank Constanza.  Basically what I’m just sayin is anybody but Nevin would be an upgrade. 

 

 

[UndertheHalo]

I think there’s some value to continuity.  Personally, I think Nevin is a guy that you can win with.  The players like him, he handles the media well.  I don’t get the point of changing him when he’s been given teams with obvious flaws that are severe, terrible injury luck and really absurd under performance from an entire pitching staff.  The Angels problems don’t have anything to do with Nevin as far as I’m concerned.  And it’s not like he’s going to cost much. 

[Hubs]

19 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think there’s some value to continuity.  Personally, I think Nevin is a guy that you can win with.  The players like him, he handles the media well.  I don’t get the point of changing him when he’s been given teams with obvious flaws that are severe, terrible injury luck and really absurd under performance from an entire pitching staff.  The Angels problems don’t have anything to do with Nevin as far as I’m concerned.  And it’s not like he’s going to cost much. 

What, specifically has shown you he is "a guy you can win with"

He's 17 games under .500 and was 14 under last year. He's not a good manager.

[UndertheHalo]

13 minutes ago, Hubs said:

What, specifically has shown you he is "a guy you can win with"

He's 17 games under .500 and was 14 under last year. He's not a good manager.

You’re not a good manager 

[Waybackman]

Neither. 

[Hubs]

7 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

You’re not a good manager 

Never claimed I was! I just had the displeasure of watching Nevin attempt to manage, but I honestly think almost anyone could've done better.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

Never claimed I was! I just had the displeasure of watching Nevin attempt to manage, but I honestly think almost anyone could've done better.

Very sad! 
 

seriously tho, I don’t think Nevin is much of an issue.  If he has a good team, he’ll be fine.  Imo.  But they’ll do what they do.  Who gives a shit I guess. 

[AngelStew43]

Can we add Gabe Kapler to the list, since he's available now?

[Just Sayin]

Perry has had his hand-picked manager.  Nevin.  It didn’t work out.  Nevin gets fired by the Yankees and ends up out here ….Madden gets blown out and Nevin acts like he just won “The Clearinghouse Sweepstakes” as the new manager of the Angels calls his pal Brett Boone crying on the phone “OMG they’ve selected me! I can’t believe it!”

it’s long overdue to move on ….

You “friends of Phil” need to let it go.  It didn’t work out.  No “fan” of the ball club would defend this guy.  

family or drinking buds….yeah probably…..

Players aren’t gonna talk any trash about him or they’re gonna be out of a job.  So take whatever the players say with a grain of salt.

Last I checked this is a results oriented business.  You’re a manager and get dealt lemons….you find a way to turn it into lemonade.

I’m sure he’s a wonderful guy. But it hasn’t worked out.  
 

 

 

 

 

[katie]

2 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

Can we add Gabe Kapler to the list, since he's available now?

Wives and girlfriends might start wanting to go to more games. 

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, katie said:

Wives and girlfriends might start wanting to go to more games. 

One of my friends loves him.  Her daughter got her a Cameo from Kapler for her birthday a few days ago.  He did it while riding a bike through the streets of San Francisco.

[Blarg]

3 hours ago, Just Sayin said:

Perry has had his hand-picked manager.  Nevin.  It didn’t work out.  

Perry didn't pick Nevin, he was in the organization as the third base coach, picked by Maddon. After Maddon was canned Nevin was assigned as an interim manager.

He was extended only because Moreno had the team up for sale and the new owner shouldn't be saddled with a manager they didn't approve on a long term deal. 

Maddon wasn't Perry's choice. Nevin was a warm body in the dugout and got the interim. Had Perry had his way he never would have hired Maddon or Nevin. He should have the option to make corrections this fall, unless Arte goes off and puts the team up for sale. 

[BTH]

9 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Maddon wasn't Perry's choice. Nevin was a warm body in the dugout and got the interim.

I do wonder why Nevin was the choice in the interim. At that time, the Angels were only 1.5 games out of a playoff spot and there were still 100+ games left.

Perry had his front office buddy Ray Montgomery in the dugout if he wanted the manager to be an extension of the front office.

Yet he chose Nevin, for some reason. Despite the fact that Nevin was a Maddon guy.

[tdawg87]

Depends on what happens with Perry. He seems to be on the same page as Nevin, at least for the most part. If Minasian isn't fired (he shouldn't be) then he'll decide if he wants to move forward with Nevin.

Melvin is good on paper and I'd vote for him, everything being equal, but I feel like we've played musical managers enough. No one guy is gonna lead this floating dumpster fire to land. 

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Depends on what happens with Perry. He seems to be on the same page as Nevin, at least for the most part. If Minasian isn't fired (he shouldn't be) then he'll decide if he wants to move forward with Nevin.

Pretty much this.  No clue who the next manager will be, but my guess is it's someone Perry and company can trust to follow the info on the spreadsheets. There may be some exceptions left, they STILL need to be able to motivate guys and keep them all on the same page but the days when double switches were a thing and managers big brained their way to wins seems resigned to MLB history.