Angels waive Moore (claimed by Cleveland), Giolito (claimed by Cleveland), Lopez (claimed by Cleveland), Grichuk (not claimed), Renfroe (claimed by Cincinnati), Leone (claimed by Seattle)

[totdprods]

18 minutes ago, Hubs said:

He understands the Luxury tax and doesn't want to pay it.

And that can be both or either 1) Arte being cheap and 2) a reasonable move to give them a reset on luxury tax to get a better pick and keep them from being repeat tax payers

It can be both.

[Chuck]

3 minutes ago, totdprods said:

And that can be both or either 1) Arte being cheap and 2) a reasonable move to give them a reset on luxury tax to get a better pick and keep them from being repeat tax payers

It can be both.

^

[Stradling]

29 minutes ago, Hubs said:

This didn't come from the GM office. This came from Arte, and Perry is doing what he is told. Hoping to keep his job. I doubt it will happen.

Link?

[Hubs]

It may be both, but anyone who thinks this trade deadline isn't a major black mark against Minasian, well, I have a Bridge to sell you.

[m0nkey]

32 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You think Arte understands the CBA as it relates to free agency compensation? 

No, he doesn't. This was a Minasian move. 

 

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Link?

 

15 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

It was probably Arte’s idea, so I doubt he’d mad at Minasian for doing it. 
 

Just like keeping Ohtani and going for it. 
 

All of it is Arte.

Maybe fletcher is talking out of his ass but no disrespect, I’ll go with his idea. 

[totdprods]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

It may be both, but anyone who thinks this trade deadline isn't a major black mark against Minasian, well, I have a Bridge to sell you.

Don’t really disagree there. 

[totdprods]

Also probably doesn’t hurt them when it comes to improving draft position.

[Lazorko Saves]

39 minutes ago, Hubs said:

He understands the Luxury tax and doesn't want to pay it.

Dude, we're 1.4m over the threshold.

Which means the first year 20% tax is a grand total of $280,000.

I know ya'll think Arte is one of those billionaires carries around expired Arby's coupons in his wallet, but c'mon man.

[T-angel]

This is essentially waving the white flag. I would proceed with letting go of Wise and Nevin at this point since they won't be back anyways.

[Hubs]

Why does Perry get all this love from, when the team has been a fucking disaster now for three years running? OK, they seem to have had some good draft picks, but the minor leagues are still terrible, almost all the free agent signings have been disasters, and most of the trades have been meh if not outright bad.

2021 Season Signings & Trade Acquisitions (2020-2021 Offseason)

Jose Quintana

Kurt Suzuki

Alex Claudio

Tony Watson

Steve Cishek

 

2021 Midseason Moves

Traded Andrew Heaney for 2 Minor Leaguers

Traded Tony Watson for 3 Minor Leaguers

Signed Adam Eaton

 

2022 Season Signings & Trade Acquisitions (2021-2022 Offseason)

Rasiel Iglesias (re-sign)

Noah Syndergaard

Aaron Loup

Ryan Tepera

Michael Lorenzen

Archie Bradley

Kurt Suzuki (re-sign)

Matt Duffy

Tyler Wade

Andrew Velazquez

2022 Midseason Moves

Acquired Jadiel Sanchez, Mickey Moniak for Noah Syndergaard

Acquired Logan O'Hoppe for Brandon Marsh

Acquired Tucker Davidson and Jesse Chavez for Rasiel Iglesias.

2023 Season Signings & Trade Acquisitions (2022-2023 Offseason)

Tyler Anderson 

Brandon Drury

Carlos Estevez

Matt Moore

Gio Urshela

Hunter Renfroe

2023 Midseason Moves

Acquired Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez for Edgar Quero and Ky Bush

Acquired Randal Grichuk and CJ Cron for Jake Madden and Madison Albright

Acquired Dominic Leone for Jeremiah Jackson

Traded Tucker Davidson for Cash

Acquired Eduardo Escobar for 2 Minor Leaguers

Acquired Mike Moustakas for 2 Minor Leaguers

 

So that's what 4/31 on Major League Moves 

[Hubs]

9 minutes ago, Lazorko Saves said:

Dude, we're 1.4m over the threshold.

Which means the first year 20% tax is a grand total of $280,000.

I know ya'll think Arte is one of those billionaires carries around expired Arby's coupons in his wallet, but c'mon man.

It's the repeat tax, they don't want to pay.

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

So that's what 4/31 on Major League Moves 

I might give him 4 more signings rated as OK, those being Tony Watson and Steve Cishek, Michael Lorenzen and Gio Urshela. 

[Lazorko Saves]

Not gonna let Check beat me at the AI game here.  (Although I do wonder how he actually got it to produce a face that actually looked like Perry.)

Here's what AI thinks "Arte Moreno trying to use expired coupons at Arby's" looks like:

[Lazorko Saves]

9 minutes ago, Hubs said:

It's the repeat tax, they don't want to pay.

You've defeated your own argument here.  "Arte is so cheap!  But also he's willing to go over the luxury tax again next season."

[Lazorko Saves]

Also, I'd really like to know what AI thinks this Arby's menu item is:

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, Lazorko Saves said:

You've defeated your own argument here.  "Arte is so cheap!  But also he's willing to go over the luxury tax again next season."

I don't think Arte is the Majority Owner next season. 

[mmc]

8 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Why does Perry get all this love from, when the team has been a fucking disaster now for three years running? OK, they seem to have had some good draft picks, but the minor leagues are still terrible, almost all the free agent signings have been disasters, and most of the trades have been meh if not outright bad.

2021 Season Signings & Trade Acquisitions (2020-2021 Offseason)

Jose Quintana

Kurt Suzuki

Alex Claudio

Tony Watson

Steve Cishek

 

2021 Midseason Moves

Traded Andrew Heaney for 2 Minor Leaguers

Traded Tony Watson for 3 Minor Leaguers

Signed Adam Eaton

 

2022 Season Signings & Trade Acquisitions (2021-2022 Offseason)

Rasiel Iglesias (re-sign)

Noah Syndergaard

Aaron Loup

Ryan Tepera

Michael Lorenzen

Archie Bradley

Kurt Suzuki (re-sign)

Matt Duffy

Tyler Wade

Andrew Velazquez

2022 Midseason Moves

Acquired Jadiel Sanchez, Mickey Moniak for Noah Syndergaard

Acquired Logan O'Hoppe for Brandon Marsh

Acquired Tucker Davidson and Jesse Chavez for Rasiel Iglesias.

2023 Season Signings & Trade Acquisitions (2022-2023 Offseason)

Tyler Anderson 

Brandon Drury

Carlos Estevez

Matt Moore

Gio Urshela

Hunter Renfroe

2023 Midseason Moves

Acquired Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez for Edgar Quero and Ky Bush

Acquired Randal Grichuk and CJ Cron for Jake Madden and Madison Albright

Acquired Dominic Leone for Jeremiah Jackson

Traded Tucker Davidson for Cash

Acquired Eduardo Escobar for 2 Minor Leaguers

Acquired Mike Moustakas for 2 Minor Leaguers

 

So that's what 4/31 on Major League Moves 

No one is giving him a ton of praise or love dude.  Sorry that people like some of the things he’s done, and thinks some of the poor decisions he’s made were out of his control

[Hubs]

Just now, mmc said:

No one is giving him a ton of praise or love dude.  Sorry that people like some of the things he’s done, and thinks some of the poor decisions he’s made were out of his control

I see so many excuses for him, and no one holding him to account, except me.

[mmc]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

I see so many excuses for him, and no one holding him to account, except me.

Yeah you’re really showing him.  This deadline was entirely influenced by Arte and no one he could’ve acquired would’ve helped this team win when the guys on the field completely shit the bed in august.  If these 2 facts bother you I don’t know what to tell you

[DMVol]

Lopez and Moore doing a lot to increase interest…

[AngelsFaninGA]

Arte getting drunk and punching the air right now

[Hubs]

26 minutes ago, mmc said:

Yeah you’re really showing him.  This deadline was entirely influenced by Arte and no one he could’ve acquired would’ve helped this team win when the guys on the field completely shit the bed in august.  If these 2 facts bother you I don’t know what to tell you

You can Blame Arte, I'll blame Perry. It's fine to have different opinions. Obviously Arte is a bit of a problematic owner, but as I said earlier I think the Sale goes through in the offseason, especially if Ohtani goes elsewhere.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

21 hours ago, DMVol said:

I would have exposed him too…probably no takers but try it and see….

It's not even exposing them! 

IF they are not picked up through Waivers. They become Free Agents... They're gonzo either way.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

5 hours ago, DMVol said:

My guess would be he was on the list last week, like Anderson…and was not taken, like Anderson…

Hmmm.... They would be Free Agents if they went through Waivers and Not picked up.

[mmc]

7 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

It's not even exposing them! 

IF they are not picked up through Waivers. They become Free Agents... They're gonzo either way.

Wrong