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Shouldn't Trout be batting third?

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IMO, I think in the long run, he will eventually be batting 3rd.  He just has too much power for the 1-2 spots.  Especially later in his career when he loses a step.  Hopefully he develops into a Bonds type player, except for the Roids and the losing.  

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IMO, I think in the long run, he will eventually be batting 3rd. He just has too much power for the 1-2 spots. Especially later in his career when he loses a step. Hopefully he develops into a Bonds type player, except for the Roids and the losing.

This. I completely agree. I've been saying since last year that trout reminds me of pittsburg bonds. I doubt he ever turns into an equal power threat (juice), but he's the same 30/30 guy bonds was. I like the henderson comps, but I think bonds is closer.

For now though, I prefer him leading off. He is our best bet to get on base, and I'd like to maximize his at bats.

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Aybar does not belong at the top of the order.

No he does not. With one small tweak this is probably our best possible lineup involing Hamilton: 

 

If it comes down to leading off or batting 2nd, I prefer him at leadoff.

 

If batting 3rd, I wouldn't mind seeing a lineup like this for a series or two:

 

Bourjos

Aybar

Trout

Trumbo

Pujols

Hamilton

Kendrick

Callaspo

Iannetta

Aybar

 

 

 
A few things I like about it. Grouping the speedy players together is good. But Aybar has a much much lower OBP than Bourjos so should be getting fewer at bats. Bourjos has hit hitting and getting on base at a high enough clip to justify staying in leadoff.
 
Trout batting second splits the difference between him getting the most at-bats (lead off) and most RBI opportunities (three spot). Since we don' tactaully have a good #2 hitter, this is a reasonable compromise.
 
The other things is we don't have Pujols batting immediately behind Trout and preventing him from stealing (only to hit into a ridiculous number of double plays)
 
 
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If it comes down to leading off or batting 2nd, I prefer him at leadoff.

 

If batting 3rd, I wouldn't mind seeing a lineup like this for a series or two:

 

Bourjos

Aybar

Trout

Trumbo

Pujols

Hamilton

Kendrick

Callaspo

Iannetta

 

In a way, I would like to give Kendrick a shot at the 2 spot if Trout was third.  It would mean hopefully that Kendrick sees more fastballs, that he handles very well.  And I think he would handle the contact play well with Pete on base.  

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Ocho, interesting thought about Pittsburgh Bonds - I hadn't thought of that.

 

As for batting order, it really doesn't matter all that much, although I'm a bit surprised to hear adherence to the old "RBI opportunities" argument. That said, I would prefer #2 then #1 then #3.

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Best hitter on team and leads the team with .548 SLG%, ranked 10th in MLB.  No question he should be hitting 3rd.  Next closest is Trumbo @ 46th. 

 

Plus Albert Pujols needs to go down in the order, closer to his fellow underperforming multi-millionaire.  Pujols is 77th in SLG%, can't run, and kills a lot of potential rallys.

 

PB

Kendrick

Trout

Trumbo

Albert Pujols

Hamilton

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Conger (Iannetta can't hit)

Aybar

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Better than 1 out and nobody on. We all know what Pujols/Hamilton are going to do behind him anyways.

Not only that, but nobody on base is usually means low leverage. Mike Trout is the least clutch player in baseball*. He actually managed to log a negative WPA despite hitting for the cycle, something which has never been done before. Low leverage with Mike Trout at the plate = B)

 

 

 

*To be fair he's not alone. The Angels are the least clutch team in baseball by a very wide margin.

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Not only that, but nobody on base is usually means low leverage. Mike Trout is the least clutch player in baseball*. He actually managed to log a negative WPA despite hitting for the cycle, something which has never been done before. Low leverage with Mike Trout at the plate = B)

 

 

 

*To be fair he's not alone. The Angels are the least clutch team in baseball by a very wide margin.

Least clutch player in baseball? Definitely not. But he is far from clutch (at least this season), that's for sure.

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