Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Docwaukee]

Hosmer sucks.  (he's actually ok if he's at league min)

[beatlesrule]

21 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

Hosmer sucks.  (he's actually ok if he's at league min)

Better than Adell.

[Rico]

5 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Better than Adell.

Why not both?

[stormngt]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Get Hosmer and Walsh can be 4th OF

Does Hosmer bat lf?

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, TempeAngel said:

Poorly, for 22 games...

Looked pretty good in All Star game

[TempeAngel]

27 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Looked pretty good in All Star game

Come on Man. Let's be real. Thinking Walsh is an answer in the outfield is like thinking Urshela is an answer at SS.

I actually think Urshela could play some corner OF but they will be best to stay mostly in their lanes. Urshela corner IF. Walsh 1b.

[m0nkey]

Hosmer at 1st, Rendon at 3rd. Championship winning level leadership at the corners, sign me up!

[BTH]

5 hours ago, Warfarin said:

I would not want Hosmer.  He is a 1B only player.  Our bench needs versatility.  

If Walsh is hurt and/or ineffective, as you mention, Urshela can primarily take over.  

I’d take a shot on Hosmer simply because you’d only have to pay him league minimum.

The Angels can’t get a bat that’s been slightly above average league for the last three years for league minimum anywhere else. And if he doesn't produce at that level, you can easily cut him.

Walsh’s ability to play the outfield corners and the ability or Ward to play CF allows you to carry two LHH 1B.

[wopphil]

I actually think Hosmer would be a great depth addition. He was an above average offensive player as recently as the first half of last year. And if Walsh is capable of covering a corner outfield spot on occasion, all the better. 

[Docwaukee]

wonder if 1b or LF would be more protective of Walsh's recent injury.  Fewer throws from LF but longer ones.  A lot more throwing at 1b but not as far.  I almost think LF would be easier on the arm than 1b.  

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

Why not both?

how about neither.  

[Warfarin]

8 hours ago, Trendon said:

I’d take a shot on Hosmer simply because you’d only have to pay him league minimum.

The Angels can’t get a bat that’s been slightly above average league for the last three years for league minimum anywhere else. And if he doesn't produce at that level, you can easily cut him.

Walsh’s ability to play the outfield corners and the ability or Ward to play CF allows you to carry two LHH 1B.

I would be more amenable to shifting Walsh to the OF if we had a promising player to put at 1B.  Hosmer is just really mediocre at best, or sub-replacement level at worst (which he has been several years too). 

We won't need it.  Here is what we can do instead:  acquire a SS (seems likely?).  If we do, we can see the following cascade if injury occurs:  Walsh to the OF, Urshela to 1B, Fletcher to 2B, Rengifo to 3B.  This would occur if Rendon is out and we also lose an OF too (although that said, I do fully expect to see the team have and utilizer a 4th OF).

I do think, once we get a SS, that will create a versatility cascade that should cover us.  I am not opposed to getting a 1B, but it would need to be one with a much better upside than Hosmer.

[jordan]

Hosmer will end up back in KC.  Just has that feel. 

[T.G.]

Hosmer will end up on the A's, where he'll hit .475 against the Angels with 8 homers.

[CanadianHalo]

12 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

Hosmer sucks. 

Not as much as Walsh does

[Warfarin]

 

 

[stormngt]

11 hours ago, TempeAngel said:

Come on Man. Let's be real. Thinking Walsh is an answer in the outfield is like thinking Urshela is an answer at SS.

I actually think Urshela could play some corner OF but they will be best to stay mostly in their lanes. Urshela corner IF. Walsh 1b.

As a 4th outfielder, yes I think its realistic.  I  not thinking it as a starter.

[BTH]

2 hours ago, jordan said:

Hosmer will end up back in KC.  Just has that feel. 

KC has Vinnie Pasquantino, who raked last season, and Nick Pratto, who is a top 100 prospect, at 1B.

No room for Hosmer there, unless they want to block the future of their team.

[BTH]

3 hours ago, Warfarin said:

I would be more amenable to shifting Walsh to the OF if we had a promising player to put at 1B.  Hosmer is just really mediocre at best, or sub-replacement level at worst (which he has been several years too). 

We won't need it.  Here is what we can do instead:  acquire a SS (seems likely?).  If we do, we can see the following cascade if injury occurs:  Walsh to the OF, Urshela to 1B, Fletcher to 2B, Rengifo to 3B.  This would occur if Rendon is out and we also lose an OF too (although that said, I do fully expect to see the team have and utilizer a 4th OF).

I do think, once we get a SS, that will create a versatility cascade that should cover us.  I am not opposed to getting a 1B, but it would need to be one with a much better upside than Hosmer.

I get what you’re saying, and I agree that Hosmer doesn’t fit as well on a roster that adds a SS and a 4th OF.

But until they do that, if they even do that at all, Hosmer would be an upgrade. And considering that all you have to do is clear a 40-man spot to claim him and only have to pay him league minimum, I would make that move.

You could always DFA him in a few weeks or a couple months if you do end up getting a SS and 4th OF.

Edited December 17, 2022 by Trendon

[Angels 1961]

39 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

Why would Angels want another lefty in rotation? Unless trade in works for one of them.

[AngelStew43]

7 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Why would Angels want another lefty in rotation? Unless trade in works for one of them.

So that one or more of the others could be included in a trade?  Guys like Suarez and Barria could be counted on for approximately 250-300 innings as starters in another organization.

[Stradling]

I like what became of Suarez but if you can get a SS for him with a few years of control.  

[Warfarin]

45 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Why would Angels want another lefty in rotation? Unless trade in works for one of them.

Handedness aside, I think Hill would fit this team rather well in that he can't really pitch a full season's worth of games, so I think he would stand to benefit from a 6 man rotation.

I'm not too worried about having too many lefties or righties in the rotation.  Hill would just be for this year, not a long-term investment.  It does seem that the FO is casting a wide net in its search for another SP, so at this point, I'd be surprised if we DON'T add another.

At this point, I'd say it's likely we add a SS, SP, RP.

[jordan]

1 hour ago, Trendon said:

KC has Vinnie Pasquantino, who raked last season, and Nick Pratto, who is a top 100 prospect, at 1B.

No room for Hosmer there, unless they want to block the future of their team.

I think they’ll find a way. He can split DH and 1B duties. 

[BTH]

4 minutes ago, jordan said:

I think they’ll find a way. He can split DH and 1B duties. 

Maybe, but they’re all left handed hitters.

If Dayton Moore was still the GM, I’d say it’s more likely. Picollo was in that front office, but I think he’s less attached to Hosmer than Moore.