Prop 26 and Prop 27

[Brandon]

Anyone voting no or against these?

Prop 26: Legalizes in person sports betting in CA (looks to be tied to current gambling locations such as race tracks and Indian casinos)

Prop 27: Legalizes online gambling in CA (will be operated like other states that currently offer online based sports betting...NV, NJ, PA)

  

[Jason]

No for me. I usually vote no on most California propositions 

[cals]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

No for me. I usually vote no on most California propositions 

You only do that because someone here said to do that like 10 years ago.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, cals said:

You only do that because someone here said to do that like 10 years ago.

Lol, it was probably me that said it. Most of the props usually have some sort of language to get more taxes from me so it’s safer to say no.

[cals]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lol, it was probably me that said it. Most of the props usually have some sort of language to get more taxes from me so it’s safer to say no.

Jason, with all due respect I don’t think you’ve ever made a decision in your life that wasn’t based on what someone else told you to do.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, cals said:

Jason, with all due respect I don’t think you’ve ever made a decision in your life that wasn’t based on what someone else told you to do.

Nope. Not a single one as you know me so well 

[gotbeer]

No on 26 and yes on 27.  

26 is not only in person sports betting in race tracks and indian casinos.  It increases their gambling monopoly to include dice (craps) and ball (roulette).  Plus it has this weird clause

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Proposition 26 adds a new way to enforce certain state gambling laws, such as laws banning certain types of card games. Specifically, it allows people or entities that believe someone is breaking these laws to file a civil lawsuit in state trial courts. 

Also, a % of the funds goes to the government.  But it really doesn't help education at all, but instead increases discretionary spending by the government.  It says:

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Proposition 26 requires CSWF revenues be considered state tax revenues to calculate the minimum amount of spending on K-12 schools and community colleges each year. This means CSWF monies would first be used to help meet this required spending level on education.

So what this means is, that Calolfornia has to spend a minimum amount on education.  What this new gambling tax does is pay into that minimum.  It does not increase the amount spent on education.  So if the state has to pay $100 to reach the minimum, and the sports tax is $50.  That means instead of the state having to raise $100.  $50 of it is covered.  That doesn't mean that the state will spend $150 on education.  It just means that the $50 + $50 from the state, and then it frees up $50 to fund say the crazy train.

Now 27 is a bit different.  It allows online sports wagering.  It also allows wagering at Indian casinos.  The online companies must make a pact with an Indian Casino, and those that don't make a pact will get 15% of the tax money (85% to homeless causes).  Now the bad thing is, that it only allows companies with a presence in 10 states.  So no AW.Com sports gambling palace.  Its money goes to the homeless fund.  But unlike the education fund, there is no minimum amount that Calolfornia must spend on it.  

[Adam]

Democracy is so stupid. Enough authoritarian assholes could vote no on this.

[cals]

38 minutes ago, Adam said:

Democracy is so stupid. Enough authoritarian assholes could vote no on this.

In Soviet Russia you wouldn’t be able to eat for four people like you do.

[AngelsLakersFan]

I will vote no on these mostly to spite the natives but also to help @UndertheHalo kick his gambling habit. 

[Adam]

5 hours ago, cals said:

In Soviet Russia you wouldn’t be able to eat for four people like you do.

Russian food sucks

[cals]

9 minutes ago, Adam said:

Russian food sucks

That’s like AJ saying free stuff from the government sucks.

[Jason]

8 hours ago, Adam said:

Russian food sucks

Their salad dressing sure does 

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Their salad dressing sure does 

Langer's disagrees.  

[UndertheHalo]

13 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

I will vote no on these mostly to spite the natives but also to help @UndertheHalo kick his gambling habit. 

Plz do not interfere with my gambling. 

[UndertheHalo]

13 hours ago, Adam said:

Russian food sucks

 

12 hours ago, cals said:

That’s like AJ saying free stuff from the government sucks.

I’ve had stuffed cabbage leaves that were quite good.  Pretty similar to stuffed grape leaves.  

[Redondo]

55 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

 

I’ve had stuffed cabbage leaves that were quite good.  Pretty similar to stuffed grape leaves.  

I've had them stuffed with rice, ground beef and tomato sauce

[UndertheHalo]

19 minutes ago, Redondo said:

I've had them stuffed with rice, ground beef and tomato sauce

Yep.  It’s a winning combination 

[Tank]

I’m voting no on both of them. 

[Blarg]

10 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

 

I’ve had stuffed cabbage leaves that were quite good.  Pretty similar to stuffed grape leaves.  

 

54 minutes ago, Tank said:

I’m voting no on both of them.