Angels // Shohei Ohtani avoid arbitration and agree to a 1-year, $30 million deal for 2023

[Angels 1961]

48 minutes ago, full circle said:

It’s one year, a year he was gonna be here anyway.

Unless he is traded which I doubt

[greginpsca]

Angels save a few bucks, considering most of his 23 salary is coming from the "Upton money".

[BTH]

36 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I am guessing that he is not speaking to the media as per orders from his boss.  He seems like a very gregarious person and has been on broadcasts, etc.  This restriction seems to deviate form what he would otherwise be doing.

Perhaps.

That would fit Arte’s MO.

[daygloman]

1 hour ago, full circle said:

It’s one year, a year he was gonna be here anyway.

I'm NOT so sure about that? But thanks for the post!

[failos]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Hopefully this shows Ohtani that the Halos want him to be a part of their future 

I would imagine every team wants him to be part of their future

[ten ocho recon scout]

I'm hoping we were smart enough to distract him when signing, and added a "0" after the "1" year.

[Justin]

24 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

I'm hoping we were smart enough to distract him when signing, and added a "0" after the "1" year.

I could see Perry trying to do that but screwing it up so now the Angels are paying him 300 million for 1 year. 

Which would also be a record. 

Edited October 1, 2022 by Justin

[Docwaukee]

Good to hear.  No arb dram needed.  And that seems like fair value for both sides.  

Didn't realize we had so many guys going to arb this year.  The rest is probably gonna cost about 10-12mil.  Which puts payroll around 155m so far for next year leaving about 30m to spend.  Gonna be tough to get done what I'd like to see done with that amount.  

 

[HaloBronco]

2 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

LMAO reading the Twitter reactions from the "other teams" fans.   Knowing their non stop pressure campaign of "he's never going to be in a playoff game" excuse didn't work.

Ohtani likes it here.   #Angel4Life

Yep, just get it done. lock him up….

[stormngt]

I don't see this as good news.  The last year of arbitration is usually included in the long term extension.  It's an incentive for the player to take the offer of an extension because you get the big money a year earlier.   

This maybe a sign that Ohtani is going to test free agency no matter what Ohatani offers.   

If that's the case we should trade him in the off season.

Edited October 2, 2022 by stormngt

[Blarg]

Minasian was handcuffed by a new ownership group not in place. I see it as good news that he was able to secure Ohtani early and remove any doubt that part of the off season is completed early. 

[DMVol]

23 minutes ago, stormngt said:

I don't see this as good news.  The last year of arbitration is usually included in the long term extension.  It's an incentive for the player to take the offer of am even tension because you get the big money a year earlier.   

This maybe a sign that Ohtani is going to test free agency no matter what Ohatani offers.   

If that's the case we should trade him in the off season.

I might normally agree but Ohtani is such a unicorn and the sale of the team creates so much uncertainty, I don’t think we know what it means, at least not yet….Beyond his skill set, Ohtani doesn’t seem to be easy to pigeon hole….

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

3 hours ago, full circle said:

It’s one year, a year he was gonna be here anyway.

I hope we get a super rich new owner, or a syndicate of owners much like the Dodgers and they make Ohtani an Angel for life.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

2 hours ago, greginpsca said:

Angels save a few bucks, considering most of his 23 salary is coming from the "Upton money".

Upton's and Syndergaard's and even a little from Iglesias'.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Justin said:

I could see Perry trying to do that but screwing it up so now the Angels are paying him 300 million for 1 year. 

Which would also be a record. 

Nobody could Arte cheap!

[ten ocho recon scout]

Well, at least I know now I can see him start one last time. I didn't go to any games he pitched since... I don't think I ever have actually seen him pitch, now that I think of it.

[jsnpritchett]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

Hopefully this shows Ohtani that the Halos want him to be a part of their future 

I'm happy they signed him, but ultimately I'm not sure this shows much of anything.  If they'd gone to arbitration, he likely would have gotten the same amount (possibly even more).  They can still trade him if they decide to--and they can obviously still try to extend him.  All this does is avoid any potential drama during the arb process. 

[Jay]

Maybe this signing reflects a glimmer of hope that Ohtani will remain with the Angels long term.

 

 

[stormngt]

5 hours ago, DMVol said:

I might normally agree but Ohtani is such a unicorn and the sale of the team creates so much uncertainty, I don’t think we know what it means, at least not yet….Beyond his skill set, Ohtani doesn’t seem to be easy to pigeon hole….

Fair point

[Duren, Duren]

The only thing that makes a difference is a show of good faith on both sides. It could have been nasty and acrimonious. And it's taken care of before the off season. 

But remember, Betts was traded shortly after a similar process. So there is no certainty about next year. For all we know another team has been discreetly talking to the Angels about a trade and this deal is just preliminary to that. Not saying it's likely because it would be tampering, but you never know. 

If he stays next season it changes little for the longer term future. It still will be a soap opera. The Angels will have to be in contention and give Ohtani something he's never had. The excitement and adrenaline rush of a pennant race. And probably actually get into the post season. 

 

[Docwaukee]

How about some cold water.  The fact that this got done so quickly likely means there was no interest in negotiating a long term deal at this point.   

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

How about some cold water.  The fact that this got done so quickly likely means there was no interest in negotiating a long term deal at this point.   

[Brandon]

26 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

How about some cold water.  The fact that this got done so quickly likely means there was no interest in negotiating a long term deal at this point.   

No reason to when ownership and the coach are up in the air. This just seemed obvious and simple for both, for now.

[IheartLA]

4 hours ago, Brandon said:

No reason to when ownership and the coach are up in the air. This just seemed obvious and simple for both, for now.

Or because we suck and he wants to win

[Jay]

Ohtani could have poisoned the well by going to arbitration but he chose not to. To me this indicates that he has not given up entirely on the Angels.