Moreno Family Exploring Sale of the Los Angeles Angels

[AngelsFaninGA]

1 hour ago, Second Base said:

Name change incoming!

Los Angeles Redskins of Anaheim

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, ScottT said:

Does he love baseball?

And beyond that, does he love angels baseball?

[AngelsFaninGA]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

And beyond that, does he love angels baseball?

That's asking for a lot. Probably narrows the pool down to about 4 people, none of whom are close to billionaires

[ten ocho recon scout]

Just now, AngelsFaninGA said:

That's asking for a lot. Probably narrows the pool down to about 4 people, none of whom are close to billionaires

Pictures rich guy pulling out pen, clicking it open, saying "where do I sign?"

Sees bottom of the lineup.... clicks pen closed.... does the courtesy "do you have a card? Let me talk it over with my wife."

[Second Base]

13 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Time to trade him then in the off-season.   Try to get a #2-3 starter, a top 40 overall prospect, and a just outside top 100 prospect.

Probably can’t do any better than that, with just 1 season to FA.

Well, whoever gets him, gets insane production, the inside track on an extension and can also offer a qualifying offer and get a borderline first round pick. 

So I think he's probably still worth a package of 4+ prospects, one of them being a top 10, two being top 100 and a fourth or even fifth just outside that range.

For instance, if the Angels and Cardinals made this trade, you'd be looking at Jordan Walker, Masyn Winn, Matthew Liberatore and Alec Burleson as a return. That's a future all-star starting 3B (blocked by Arenado and Gorman), legit starting SS (which makes him, Neto, Rengifo and Jackson immediate trade bait for an even higher return), a middle rotation starter, and a starting corner outfielder with a well rounded game. Not to mention, every player in this package is MLB ready. 

Not trading Shohei could potentially doom this franchise because they'd get nothing in return and wouldn't have a replacement. Trading Shohei for that kind of package has the potential of saving the future of this team. They've been top-heavy for too long. That package makes them a more well rounded team.

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

i'd like to see them go back to california or anaheim angels.

i'd also like to see a revamp of the uniform. the red A on the red hat needs to change, for starters.

There's a lot I would like to see. Definitely a new uniform. As I've said before, the font and uniform style was really cool 20 years ago, along with Nickelback and Hoobastank. It's not old enough to be vintage, traditional or retro. It's just stupid and outdated. 

The name should return to California Angels, in just the same way the Rangers are Texas. 

The stadium... Either move, rebuild it renevate. The Angels need something that isn't cookie cutter, that reflects the lifestyle of Southern California, and no not the homeless. Also, I'd downsize the seating capacity. That's great they can fit 45k people, but when 15k show up, it's empty and depressing. Maybe go down to 30k capacity with intimate seating that feels like you're on top of the action and sell out every night.

Beyond that, hire a GM that can build a legacy here of smart investments and a strong farm system. 

[angelsnationtalk]

29 minutes ago, Second Base said:

There's a lot I would like to see. Definitely a new uniform. As I've said before, the font and uniform style was really cool 20 years ago, along with Nickelback and Hoobastank. It's not old enough to be vintage, traditional or retro. It's just stupid and outdated. 

The name should return to California Angels, in just the same way the Rangers are Texas. 

The stadium... Either move, rebuild it renevate. The Angels need something that isn't cookie cutter, that reflects the lifestyle of Southern California, and no not the homeless. Also, I'd downsize the seating capacity. That's great they can fit 45k people, but when 15k show up, it's empty and depressing. Maybe go down to 30k capacity with intimate seating that feels like you're on top of the action and sell out every night.

Beyond that, hire a GM that can build a legacy here of smart investments and a strong farm system. 

Yes to all... My concern, however, is just wanting an owner that will allow it. 

That's why I like Steve Ballmer or a Ballmer-type guy. 

He's someone that can immediately financially compete against the Dodgers/Yankee/Mets with payroll and he's known as an owner to hire the right people while stepping back and letting them do their jobs. 

All our owner needs to do is that. 

[Second Base]

3 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Yes to all... My concern, however, is just wanting an owner that will allow it. 

That's why I like Steve Ballmer or a Ballmer-type guy. 

He's someone that can immediately financially compete against the Dodgers/Yankee/Mets with payroll and he's known as an owner to hire the right people while stepping back and letting them do their jobs. 

All our owner needs to do is that. 

Even if we don't have that, a smart GM and front office staff can do wonders. Oakland and Tampa Bay are prime examples. If the Angels could hire someone that operated at that level, the owner wouldn't effect the on the field product so much. He could just focus on things like the uniform, name and the stadium. 

 

 

 

 

[beatlesrule]

Column: Good riddance to Angels owner Arte Moreno and his sombrero of shame (msn.com)

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Second Base said:

Oakland and Tampa Bay are prime examples

Oakland hasn’t won squat with this FO

[Second Base]

Just now, T.G. said:

Oakland hasn’t won squat with this FO

Neither have the Angels. The difference is they're in the playoffs more often. 

[T.G.]

24 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Neither have the Angels. The difference is they're in the playoffs more often. 

The A’s front office is vastly over-rated

[stormngt]

3 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Average wrongful death lawsuits for public entities are 2m. Clearly his earning potential and age will inflate that, but with total liability for the angels being not 100% that will offset it. I deal with these claims all day long. Had the dude been a vegetable instead of dying, his family would be entitled to 20x that number. 

Skaggs willfully took the drugs.  They would not want me on the jury.

[ten ocho recon scout]

10 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Skaggs willfully took the drugs.  They would not want me on the jury.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

RIP to him. 

But I'll go to at least 5 "Skaggs" events this week at work alone. Just in shittier hotel rooms.

He, sadly, was just a sign of the times. And I'm sure he would have had said habit no matter where he was playing.

[ten ocho recon scout]

56 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Column: Good riddance to Angels owner Arte Moreno and his sombrero of shame (msn.com)

So, I agree with a lot of that. But Gustavo himself is as big of a joke as he's making Moreno out to be.

[Angelsfan1984]

16 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Skaggs willfully took the drugs.  They would not want me on the jury.

I agree with you. Doesn’t mean they don’t look at the employer as partially responsible. Especially considering another employee provided the substance. If a city dump truck hits and kills someone, it doesn’t matter if the guy was shitfaced. The company is still liable. Lawsuits always find their way to the deepest pockets.

[stormngt]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I agree with you. Doesn’t mean they don’t look at the employer as partially responsible. Especially considering another employee provided the substance. If a city dump truck hits and kills someone, it doesn’t matter if the guy was shitfaced. The company is still liable. Lawsuits always find their way to the deepest pockets.

Unless there is proof it was part of company policy and not a rogue employee,  I would side with the Angels.

[ScottT]

I'm leaning towards wanting a cheap owner that hires incompetent people that make poor investments. Think about how cheap tickets would be.

[Duren, Duren]

Want to see a real nightmare team sale? That ended with a team relocating? If Arte was as big a prick as Loria you may have to endure some of this. Different dynamics, but the carpetbagger mindset was behind it. And ironically Loria with in Florida before dismantling and flipping the team again.

 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/118868-how-jeffrey-loria-destroyed-the-montreal-exposnationals

[mmc]

Also please for the love of god can the new owner change the uniforms?

[nickprice91]

I think Disney should buy the Angels again

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

20 hours ago, Ron Mexico said:

Also Don't forget him Building the The Clippers own Arena in Inglewood 

Is it completed? I have been focused on work, and starting another business... Everything outside of that, other than the family and friends has fallen to the outside. I usually get on here and skim while I'm eating. 

[Hubs]

22 hours ago, Chris said:

I expect Disney to buy the team and land, and promptly move the team to Las Vegas.  Then Disney will use the land for an additional theme park. 

Vegas has 2 M residents, the Metro LA area is 20 M.

[ScottT]

Vegas is the 40th biggest tv market.   Right behind West Palm Beach - Fort Pierce.  Just ahead of Grand Rapids - Kalamazoo - Battle Creek.    

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

The thing I like about Ballmer is he's worth $88 billion so $2.2 billion is no big deal. He can do it for the love of the game and for no other reason.

 

Or, Everything he does now is to irritate the Lakers Ownership... Now he could do the same with the Dodgers Ownership...