Jim Bowden: “[The Angels will] listen to all trade offers”

[BTH]

Jim Bowden in The Athletic today: “The Angels are sellers and want to add depth in all areas for their major- and minor-league teams. They’ll listen to all trade offers, including for Ohtani, who will be a free agent after the 2023 season.”

https://t.co/Zyv9vYVynn

[Angel Oracle]

Jim Bowden being Jim Bowden, loves the clicks on his articles.

Nothing to see here

[BTH]

4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Jim Bowden being Jim Bowden, loves the clicks on his articles.

Nothing to see here

Perhaps, but it’s not like anyone else is putting out Angels rumors that conflict with this info.

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Perhaps, but it’s not like anyone else is putting out Angels rumors that conflict with this info.

Actually.... John Morosi said the opposite about Ohtani

Edited July 26, 2022 by T.G.

[T.G.]

30 day suspension for @Trendon for pulling a Craig on himself.

[Angels 1961]

It's time to start the new direction.

[DMVol]

8 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Jim Bowden being Jim Bowden, loves the clicks on his articles.

Nothing to see here

 

Just now, T.G. said:

Actually.... John Morosi said the opposite...

Bowden tends to be a bomb thrower so I don’t take what he says as gospel…he does know front office folks so he’s not totally clueless…

[BTH]

7 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Actually.... John Morosi said the opposite about Ohtani

Link?

[BTH]

4 minutes ago, T.G. said:

30 day suspension for @Trendon for pulling a Craig on himself.

huh?

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Link?

We have a thread in this forum!

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, Trendon said:

huh?

You started two identical threads.

Are you off your meds?

[BTH]

1 minute ago, T.G. said:

You started two identical threads.

Are you off your meds?

They aren’t identical.

One is about Shohei Ohtani exclusively, and particularly the Mets interest in him.

The other is about the Angels willingness to listen to all players and their desire to build depth in the majors and minors.

But if a mod wants to merge these threads, feel free to.

[Angels 1961]

I hope Ohtani ends up on big stage. Angels have failed to put winning team around him and Trout. I have loved watching both players perform for halos, but they should be on playoff teams. After seven losing seasons something has to change. This is not a contending team, nor does it have a minor league system to make big trades. So many question marks and holes to fill. 

[BTH]

18 minutes ago, T.G. said:

We have a thread in this forum!

Morosi just said “the Angels are indicating they have no plans to move” Ohtani.

Bowden is saying they’ll listen on offers, which is not conflicting information. Bowden reiterated the same thing as Morosi, but Bowden made added the info that the Angels are willing to listen.

[Chuck]

As they should. 

[T.G.]

19 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Morosi just said “the Angels are indicating they have no plans to move” Ohtani.

Bowden is saying they’ll listen on offers, which is not conflicting information. Bowden reiterated the same thing as Morosi, but Bowden made added the info that the Angels are willing to listen.

I really don't care... just seems to me that it's all the same conversation and it's easier to keep it one thread... but again... I really don't care.  Forget I mentioned it.

[Erstad Grit]

I love Ohtani.

I have no words to describe the fun he has brought, the history we've witnessed.

However I think it's fair to consider him at least minimally an injury risk, and the contract he will get will shatter everything. Additionally if Ohtani has indicated he will not extend here we need to do what's wise. 

If we can acquire 3-5 high end prospects not far away we need to listen. We can always attempt to resign him in free agency like the Yankees did with Chapman. They got a ton of prospects from the Cubs, and then signed him. 

 

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

I hope Ohtani ends up on big stage. Angels have failed to put winning team around him and Trout. I have loved watching both players perform for halos, but they should be on playoff teams. After seven losing seasons something has to change. This is not a contending team, nor does it have a minor league system to make big trades. So many question marks and holes to fill. 

[Angels 1961]

6 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

You are on my ignore list

[BTH]

“The Angels are telling teams they need to listen on everyone following the surprise collapse of their team off a very strong start that had them in first place in May.”

“While the Angels’ most likely sell pieces are starter Noah Syndergaard, closer Raisel Iglesias and relievers Ryan Tepera and Aaron Loup, they are engaging when rival executives mention Ohtani.”
 

 

[Taylor]

Very insightful. I was curious if the Angels were going to plug their ears during certain trade proposals.

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Very insightful. I was curious if the Angels were going to plug their ears during certain trade proposals.

Only when it comes to Kurt Suzuki. 

[Angelsfan1984]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Only when it comes to Kurt Suzuki. 

Don’t you dare touch the pride of cal state Fullerton 

[totdprods]

On 7/26/2022 at 4:22 PM, Chuckster70 said:

As they should. 

The only option they haven't tried the past decade is a true "sell" or by-the-books rebuild. If they know it won't alienate Trout or Ohtani (or if they know he's a goner regardless) maybe it's time to try something different. The Mariners (ugh) are showing that you can do pull off a two-year rebuild if you trade right.

I'm still not advocating for it or wanting it, but it's fair to say it's the one strategy they haven't tried.

Ship off Ward, Walsh, Iglesias, Sandoval, a reliever if you can, consider Ohtani, scoop up a ton of AA-AAA-MLB players. 
Between that haul, the pitcher-heavy drafts the last three years, and the current unproven youngsters we have (Adell, Marsh, Detmers, Silseth, Rengifo) playing out this year to determine what we have should give you a deep enough pool of talent to turn and buy from in trades as soon as next year or between 2023-2024. 

Not my plan, the the plan, just an alternative plan to what's been done. 

[Angels 1961]

31 minutes ago, totdprods said:

The only option they haven't tried the past decade is a true "sell" or by-the-books rebuild. If they know it won't alienate Trout or Ohtani (or if they know he's a goner regardless) maybe it's time to try something different. The Mariners (ugh) are showing that you can do pull off a two-year rebuild if you trade right.

I'm still not advocating for it or wanting it, but it's fair to say it's the one strategy they haven't tried.

Ship off Ward, Walsh, Iglesias, Sandoval, a reliever if you can, consider Ohtani, scoop up a ton of AA-AAA-MLB players. 
Between that haul, the pitcher-heavy drafts the last three years, and the current unproven youngsters we have (Adell, Marsh, Detmers, Silseth, Rengifo) playing out this year to determine what we have should give you a deep enough pool of talent to turn and buy from in trades as soon as next year or between 2023-2024. 

Not my plan, the the plan, just an alternative plan to what's been done. 

I agree but with Trout's injury he would be almost impossible to move now. Just 2 big contracts with Rendon and Trout. If Minasian said they are listening on everyone seems like rebuild is coming, I will be surprised is Ohtani is not moved before deadline. Contenders get 2 cracks at WS with him. Any team Ohtani goes to I'm buying a hat, plus an Ohtani jersey.