General NHL Talk 2022-2023

[deepdrive]

56 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

He seems like a good get.  50 point scorer.  6'1".  Center.  Right shot, which is important, since Z, comtois, Henrique, Lundestrom, Jones, and McTavish are all left shots.  

What line (or who is vacated) does he go on. You don't pay 5M for a 4th line center. Is Lindestrom out? Is Zegras going to wing? Or, is this guy the next Henrique - plays center when someone is hurt.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, deepdrive said:

What line (or who is vacated) does he go on. You don't pay 5M for a 4th line center. Is Lindestrom out? Is Zegras going to wing? Or, is this guy the next Henrique - plays center when someone is hurt.

He could center Rico and Terry?  Rico is like the swiss army knife and can go in any position.  

[gotbeer]

 

[deepdrive]

42 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

He could center Rico and Terry?  Rico is like the swiss army knife and can go in any position.  

That would mean no McTavish this year then. 

And then there's next year.

Oh well, things will work out.

[gotbeer]

Yes!!!!  Suck it.  Beeker isn't that stupid.  

https://nhlrumors.com/2022-nhl-free-agent-signing-tracker/2022/07/13/

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Josh Manson

COL

D

UFA

4 years

$4.5 million

 

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, deepdrive said:

That would mean no McTavish this year then. 

And then there's next year.

Oh well, things will work out.

McTavish could move onto the Lundestrom line.  Put him on the third pairing instead of throwing him in a high pressure situation.

[deepdrive]

43 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Yes!!!!  Suck it.  Beeker isn't that stupid.  

https://nhlrumors.com/2022-nhl-free-agent-signing-tracker/2022/07/13/

 

Yeah, I don't see it either. I mean he had a nice playoff run. But, those two big goals he had, would more likely miss by two feet.

Hey, I like the person. I'm glad he won a cup and was rewarded with a nice contract. But he's a 3rd pairing guy and not worth the 4M's. Maybe 3-3 1/2 if you like everything he brings outside his mediocre play.

I hope he steps up big next year and doesn't make Colorado regret it.

[arch stanton]

That's one of the things that Bender and Nolan Pratt do that I love. They have basic pairings but they don't stick to it rigidly and they put all the D in the best position to succeed. Manson and EJ will each get around 16-18 minutes on the right side, including PK, and they'll always have a puck mover next to them. They're encouraged to push play when they see the opportunity and defend aggressively at the blue line 

[gotbeer]

@arch stanton  Eklund, so grain of salt.

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Looks Like Kadri back to Colorado

hearing that may be done.
Source: Eklund
Discuss this Rumor

 

[deepdrive]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

@arch stanton  Eklund, so grain of salt.

 

I thought they didn’t have the cap space.

Maybe they could trade Manson or buy him out.

[gotbeer]

29 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

I thought they didn’t have the cap space.

Maybe they could trade Manson or buy him out.

According to Capfriendly, they have $3.9 million in cap space.  But everyone looks to be signed for next season.  No RFA's with pending cap.  Their roster is also at 21/23, so they are close.  They would still have to move someone.  Girard's $5 million x 4 is the one I've heard most in comments.  

And talking about Cap space.  Tampa Bay is currently $7 million over the cap.  Florida and the Caps around $3 million.  Vegas, $1.3 million over the cap with 16/23 on the roster.  Edmonton has $1.3 million in cap space, but still have RFA Yamamoto and Puljuvarvi.  Columbus has $3.1 million, but still have to sign Laine.  

[deepdrive]

Looks like a few teams need someone to take some bad contracts off their hands.

[arch stanton]

The Avs Cap Friendly number includes Sedlak and Englund who are probably headed for the Eagles so maybe another 1.5 mil available.The most likely trades to make space are Compher (3.5 mil) and Girard (5 mil) and there's always the possible buyout of EJ although we just assume most if not all of his contract is earmarked as MacKinnon's extension money next year.

[gotbeer]

24 Players Elect Salary Arbitration

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Three notable names that did not file for arbitration are Winnipeg Jets forward Pierre-Luc Dubois, Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk and Columbus Blue Jackets forward Patrik Laine. 

https://theathletic.com/3388856/2022/06/30/nhl-offer-sheet-candidates-2022/

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Offer Sheet Compensation

DRAFT COMPENSATION	SALARY THRESHOLD
None	$1,386,490 or below
Third-round pick	Over $1,386,490 to $2,100,742
Second-round pick	Over $2,100,742 to $4,201,488
First-round pick, third-round pick	Over $4,201,488 to $6,302,230
First-round pick, second-round pick, third-round pick	Over $6,302,230 to $8,402,975
2 First-round picks, second-round pick, third-round pick	Over $8,402,975 to $10,503,720
4 First-round picks	Over $10,503,720

 

[arch stanton]

Arch's bold prediction to break the FA stalemate:

Avs trade JT Compher and Martin Kaut to Ducks for future considerations then sign Kadri to a 6 x 5

At some point in the season the Avs put Erik Johnson on LTIR then trade him to the Ducks to re-acquire Compher and Shattenkirk

[gotbeer]

5 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Arch's bold prediction to break the FA stalemate:

Avs trade JT Compher and Martin Kaut to Ducks for future considerations then sign Kadri to a 6 x 5

At some point in the season the Avs put Erik Johnson on LTIR then trade him to the Ducks to re-acquire Compher and Shattenkirk

Looking at the Ducks makeup, our biggest need right now is a short term Dman so that Helleson and Andersson won't be rushed to the NHL.  Preferably on the right side.  That's why I think, after all the dust settles, Edmonton is who we are going to take the cap hit for.  Barrie on a 2 year deal aligns with what the Ducks need the most.  The rest of the cap space is probably going to be a WMD, if teams are looking to free up space it's going to cost them.  Might even be kept in stockpile till the trade deadline when teams really need it.

[arch stanton]

3 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Looking at the Ducks makeup, our biggest need right now is a short term Dman so that Helleson and Andersson won't be rushed to the NHL.  Preferably on the right side.  That's why I think, after all the dust settles, Edmonton is who we are going to take the cap hit for.  Barrie on a 2 year deal aligns with what the Ducks need the most.  The rest of the cap space is probably going to be a WMD, if teams are looking to free up space it's going to cost them.  Might even be kept in stockpile till the trade deadline when teams really need it.

But you're still 9 mil from the floor. It's going to take multiple transactions to get there

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

But you're still 9 mil from the floor. It's going to take multiple transactions to get there

Not really.  Lundestrom still needs his contract.  That will be probably around 2 million.  3 million would be a stretch.  Vakanaanien is probably going to be a bit over 1 million.  Benoit will be about a million.  So that's around 4 million.  Only 11 forwards including Lundestrom.  So that's 2-3 more minor league contracts.  Say 1.5 million for 2.  That's around 5.5 million.  If we get Barrie, that's $4.5 million.  So past the floor at $10 million.  

[arch stanton]

You can't say you like what Beezer is doing and then say you want Barrie in the same breath

[gotbeer]

14 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

You can't say you like what Beezer is doing and then say you want Barrie in the same breath

Barrie is just a veteran to put in for the short term.  Market like Klingberg would be too long of a commitment.  Barrie does have some value though in the PP.  Barrie also still does score, which is something the Ducks need.  His FF and CF are also favorable.  So again, for a short term fix, he would fit.  And if he meshes well with Fowler, it would be a plus.

[gotbeer]

Rumor mill is saying the Tkachuk is about to be traded.  

 

[arch stanton]

He’s the closest thing you’ll find to a young Perry so….

[gotbeer]

NHL Rumors: Matthew Tkachuk Informs Flames He Won't Sign New Contract; Trade Likely

[gotbeer]

Oh boy.  Boom goes the dynamite.

Court filing alleges Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid underage girl for sex

 

[gotbeer]

Predators Sign Nino Niederreiter to Two-Year, $8 Million Contract

$4 million in cap space left for them.