The Official Tyler Skaggs Trial (News & Notes) Thread (Eric Kay found GUILTY on both charges)

[T.G.]

Troll alert.

[Lou]

I have no idea if my file clerk uses opioids. Quite frankly, as long as she shows up to work and remembers the alphabet, i don't really care. 

[Lou]

Just now, cals said:

Is she hot?

Why would I hire an ugly file clerk? 

[T.G.]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

Are you watching Willow again?

I’m reading stupid posts from a guy who thinks he’s funny, but he’s just annoying instead.

[tdawg87]

I want a file clerk.

[T.G.]

2 minutes ago, cals said:

That sucks.  Downtown Carlsbad was in the politics board today, too.  I feel you.

Crap. That made me chuckle.

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I want to be a file clerk.

Seriously?

[tdawg87]

26 minutes ago, Lou said:

Seriously?

Are you hiring? I'm incredibly disorganized but I also fart too much.

[Amazing Larry]

By Nate’s reasoning every club president in MLB should be fired right this minute. The only thing that will stop players from taking drugs in every major league clubhouse across the country is the lockout. 

[Lou]

8 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Are you hiring? I'm incredibly disorganized but I also fart too much.

You'd have to bring more to the table than my current file clerk does. 

[Amazing Larry]

Just now, Lou said:

You'd have to bring more to the table than my current file clerk does. 

There’s a chance he has a bigger rack than your current clerk. 

[nate]

9 hours ago, Lou said:

I have no idea if my file clerk uses opioids. Quite frankly, as long as she shows up to work and remembers the alphabet, i don't really care. 

This isn't your file clerk. This is your talent. You all are making false equivalencies. File clerks dont make millions of dollars a year and they aren't one of 25 people whose health is directly responsible for the company's results.

Again, this only happens because Carpino either didn't care or didn't want to know. Otherwise there would have been enough compliance in place to catch it.

[Dtwncbad]

8 minutes ago, nate said:

This isn't your file clerk. This is your talent. You all are making false equivalencies. File clerks dont make millions of dollars a year and they aren't one of 25 people whose health is directly responsible for the company's results.

Again, this only happens because Carpino either didn't care or didn't want to know. Otherwise there would have been enough compliance in place to catch it.

Your whole stance is a perfect example of “something bad happened so somebody has to pay.”

It is very undisciplined and childish.

[Stradling]

18 minutes ago, nate said:

This isn't your file clerk. This is your talent. You all are making false equivalencies. File clerks dont make millions of dollars a year and they aren't one of 25 people whose health is directly responsible for the company's results.

Again, this only happens because Carpino either didn't care or didn't want to know. Otherwise there would have been enough compliance in place to catch it.

You missed his point.  You think he should have known.  Lou probably works relatively close to his file clerk, and wouldn’t know if she did drugs or dealed drugs.  

[nate]

20 minutes ago, Stradling said:

You missed his point.  You think he should have known.  Lou probably works relatively close to his file clerk, and wouldn’t know if she did drugs or dealed drugs.  

No, I got his point. It also isn't his job to watch after the welfare of his file clerk.

And again, this isn't just the file clerk, this is his assistant manager, and his assistant manager dealing to half the office.

In fact, it is more like you dealing drugs to the other INO store managers and having one of the stores burn down because the manager was too high to safely manage the store. If that were the case, you don't think your boss would get fired? INO also has thousands and thousands of employees. Angels have about a hundred who have a significant impact on the outcome of the season that they invest hundreds of millions of dollars on.

[Second Base]

I love the movement of brutal integrity among real men in this country. If something happens on your watch, you take responsibility for it. But such a process doesn't mean you take blame where you can't or where you have no authority or right to. 

I can't speak for Carpino, a case could be made in either direction. Ultimately, I would like to see a few more people step up and takes blame before him though. So blaming him seems tenuous at best. 

[bruin5]

11 hours ago, nate said:

A manager's job isn't only giving reviews and approving PTO. The well being of your employees, especially if it impacts their performance in their job, is absolutely in your purview.

Most employees with addiction issues are able to hide it from their employers.  If they get fired, it’s usually because of attendance issues.  The only way a manager could be fired would be if they discovered the issue and didn’t report it.  That’s because employees in California are allowed ONE chance to enter a treatment or rehabilitation program. 

The sad part is that 99% of them decide to do a short outpatient program and end up getting fired because they can’t stop their addiction.  

[failos]

I’m not a fan of Carpino, but the premise of this thread is stupid. Why would Carpino turn a blind eye to an employee selling drugs to a player? If he had known he would’ve fired Kay on the spot. Good bosses don’t micromanage to the level of knowing every detail of their employees’ lives.

Edited February 15, 2022 by failos

[jsnpritchett]

 

[failos]

17 hours ago, mmc said:

 

Yeah I’m never defending Skaggs again. This is on him.

[jsnpritchett]

 

Edited February 15, 2022 by jsnpritchett

[Inside Pitch]

Oof...

 

[mmc]

 

[Dtwncbad]

35 minutes ago, bruin5 said:

Most employees with addiction issues are able to hide it from their employers.  If they get fired, it’s usually because of attendance issues.  The only way a manager could be fired would be if they discovered the issue and didn’t report it.  That’s because employees in California are allowed ONE chance to enter a treatment or rehabilitation program. 

The sad part is that 99% of them decide to do a short outpatient program and end up getting fired because they can’t stop their addiction.  

You can say that again.

[mmc]