Angels select Janson Junk, release Jose Iglesias

[Angels 1961]

28 minutes ago, mmc said:

Dumb that we cut Iglesias now rather than before the 31st.  He'd have an opportunity to play in the playoffs.

This is not AYSO where everyone gets a trophy.

[tdawg87]

0.6 fWAR.

This is why I don't like defensive WAR. That's a 1.8 WAR swing.

[HanfordGuy]

4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

0.6 fWAR.

This is why I don't like defensive WAR. That's a 1.8 WAR swing.

Defensive WAR…What is it good for???

[mmc]

 

[HanfordGuy]

1 hour ago, mmc said:

Dumb that we cut Iglesias now rather than before the 31st.  He'd have an opportunity to play in the playoffs.

Angels Front Office…

[Angels 1961]

15 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

Defensive WAR…What is it good for???

If you are trying to wear down your enemy. If your opponent has greater numbers you dig in secure the high ground. 

[AngelStew43]

This is partly the reason that we are stuck in this rut.  Instead of trading Iglesias for any type of minor league depth piece, we release him and recover nothing.  

Now, someone else signs him to finish out the year for the prorated portion of the ML minimum, and the Angels pay the balance.  Brilliant.  

It is hard to fathom how Iglesias couldn't have been used even as a throw in on one of the deadline deals.

[HanfordGuy]

5 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

If you are trying to wear down your enemy. If your opponent has greater numbers you dig in secure the high ground. 

[eligrba]

Minasian is quickly becoming the Angel Hernandez of GMs with the number of bad player decisions he made for this season.

[ettin]

5 hours ago, Trendon said:

Does anyone know whether the Angels can place players on the injured list in AAA (such as Griffin Canning or Taylor Ward) on the 60-day IL to clear a 40-man roster space?

Canning's out for the season, but he was optioned, got hurt in AAA, and then was placed on the AAA IL. He hasn't been placed on the 60-day IL yet, despite the Angels needing numerous 40-man roster spots lately, some I'm wondering if maybe that's not allowed? @Jeff Fletcher?

 

5 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

I am pretty sure that’s not allowed, although I’m sure the players would be fine with it because they’d get major league pay and service time. 

It is my, possibly limited, understanding that when a 40-man roster player is optioned down, plays in the Minors, and then they get injured, the team can choose to place them on the Major League IL or the Minor League IL, at their discretion. As Jeff pointed out if they decide to utilize the Major League IL, then the player gets Major League pay and service time. If they are on the Minor League IL, Major League service time does not accrue, but the player must remain on the 40-man.

In the case of Canning, who is at 1.153 years (1 year, 153 days) of Major League service time, the Halos front office appears to be favoring the suppression of his service time, so that he does not exceed 2 years of Major League service time, thus retaining the extra year of control over him. Note that Ward is at 1.065 years (1 year, 65 days), for reference. Also, Sandoval is at 0.167 years (167 days).

[tdawg87]

I think many here were wanting to extend him like, a month ago. Let's not forget that when we say Minasian fucked up.

[T.G.]

Maybe nobody wanted him.

[T.G.]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I think many here were wanting to extend him like, a month ago. Let's not forget that when we say Minasian fucked up.

I wanted to extend him.

[mmc]

17 minutes ago, True Grich said:

I wanted to extend him.

Gross

[Stradling]

3 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

This is partly the reason that we are stuck in this rut.  Instead of trading Iglesias for any type of minor league depth piece, we release him and recover nothing.  

Now, someone else signs him to finish out the year for the prorated portion of the ML minimum, and the Angels pay the balance.  Brilliant.  

It is hard to fathom how Iglesias couldn't have been used even as a throw in on one of the deadline deals.

Until you look at his performance this year. 

[Jay]

I don't see this move as having much of an impact on the Angels' season.

 

[HanfordGuy]

When the lineup card is delivered to home plate, do you think the Angel coach will say, “Hey take a look at my junk.” While pointing to the card.

or

when the lineup card is delivered to home plate, do you think the Angel coach will say, “Hey, check out my junk.” While pointing to the card.

Please lock in your answers.

 

[TheLordofOuts]

Mayfield will make us all forget about Iglesias 

[mmc]

Seriously don't understand both the organization and this board's fascination with Mayfield.  He's an ok bench infielder.  I don't see what other than his cool home runs would make people think he's starting caliber.  And he's on the wrong side of 30.

[ScottT]

I don't think anyone is fascinated with Jack Mayfield.

[Angel Oracle]

It’s just looking for a short term (2 years?) answer at SS, without using up too much payroll space, until Paris is ready.

[T.G.]

Rumor has it that Mayfield will captain Arte’s yacht

[tdawg87]

Mayfield is a decent bench player. Maybe. Can essentially be a utility guy, but he doesn't play good defense. He also can't hit.

He has also been putrid every year but this one. He had a 26 OPS+ with Houston. Twenty. Six. And it was a SIX FUCKING TEEN OPS+ with Seattle before coming here.

If he's the starting shortstop next year we are fucked.

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Mayfield is a decent bench player. Maybe. Can essentially be a utility guy, but he doesn't play good defense. He also can't hit.

He has also been putrid every year but this one. He had a 26 OPS+ with Houston. Twenty. Six. And it was a SIX FUCKING TEEN OPS+ with Seattle before coming here.

If he's the starting shortstop next year we are fucked.

Mayfield is like a poor man's Brian Goodwin.

[DMVol]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Mayfield is a decent bench player. Maybe. Can essentially be a utility guy, but he doesn't play good defense. He also can't hit.

He has also been putrid every year but this one. He had a 26 OPS+ with Houston. Twenty. Six. And it was a SIX FUCKING TEEN OPS+ with Seattle before coming here.

If he's the starting shortstop next year we are fucked.

He’s never hit much until this year but he is a good defender…