Joe Maddon: How do you rate him in his first year as manager?

[Angel Oracle]

I’ll say C.    He is playing the younger players more, which is good in that he gets a good idea going forward of how to use them in the lineup.

[Chuck]

@RendZone you already have your guy in Pujols, you don't get another player. 

Can you stop referring to Justin Upton as "Melvin". 

Thank you. 

Remember I'm the kindler, gentler moderator on here. Don't force me to release the hounds. 

[Stradling]

19 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

@RendZone you already have your guy in Pujols, you don't get another player. 

Can you stop referring to Justin Upton as "Melvin". 

Thank you. 

Remember I'm the kindler, gentler moderator on here. Don't force me to release the hounds. 

Put me in coach.  

[Angel]

D+ 69/100

Negatives: Very odd lineup decisions, too many rhh in a row, clumping hitters together.  Pulling pitchers doing well, things that make no sense.  

Positives: He has a way with young talent, he likes players that have something to prove, good clubhouse manager and communication ability.  

His score is indicative of his team's record, weighted with the bad luck and other factors.

[GregAlso]

I think he deserves a D- or F+, so I have him an F. I know that people on here are giving him a pass on the weird season. I’m gonna post some articles here from cubs fans about why they were frustrated. Read them and I think it’ll feel very familiar. i don’t think this is an aberration. 

the process

https://www.cubsinsider.com/2019/09/12/joe-maddon-continuing-same-process-as-cubs-mediocrity-continues/

The pitching

https://www.cubsinsider.com/2019/07/30/maddon-bristles-at-criticism-from-fans-with-really-ridiculous-concept-of-bullpens-and-bullpen-management/

 

There are more of these out there. Chuck can testify I was not pro this hiring. He is no better than Ausmus (I know that’s sacrilege on here but whatever). There are other articles about lineups and strange decisions about who should play over whom. I know we all would like to hope next year will be different but I don’t think Maddon is changing his stripes, hence an F.

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

I dont have a take, i havent seen really any games this year.

But ive seen the same things about sosh. We saw sosh succeed with a good team. Weve seen maddon do the same.

We need a good team before we blame the manager.

A bullpen would make joe look a lot smarter.

[eligrba4ever]

He rates a B for the work he has put into this laboratory experiment. But this ain't really a season of baseball. Maddon's first season as manager might begin in 5 mpmths.

[TroutCron]

How many games is the Manager really responsible for regarding wins and losses? While I have to question the constant need to change the lineup, the bottom line is this team lacks playable depth ( a constant in the Eppler era) both in pitching and the field. While Maddon hasn’t shown me anything that is unique he doesn’t have much to work with. The pitching is incredibly weak. Canning has been very inconsistent , as have Middleton. Bedrosian has missed most of the games. Sandoval isn’t ready and Suarez never will be. The rest of the staff were acquired by trade or as cheap options off the scrapheap. Bundy has been excellent but the rest of the cheap options have performed like one would expect. The value is in drafting and developing your own pitching and occasionally signing free agents to supplement your staff. It is ridiculous that the organization has no pitching above AA. 
Hopefully, the next GM is better at building a solid organization. ( Don’t let Arte get involved in Baseball decisions).

[Blarg]

8 minutes ago, TroutCron said:

How many games is the Manager really responsible for regarding wins and losses?

All of them if he is filling out lineup cards throwing dice like Yahtzee.