No. 15 Jason Castro ????

[Claude]

Is that accurate? That number hasn’t been worn by an Angels player since Oct 1, 2006 by Tim Salmon

Edited February 17, 2020 by RendZone

[ScottT]

Once they let Pujols take Mathis' #5, everything was fair game.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Blame that on the Angels' for not doing the right thing, IMO, awhile ago by retiring Salmon's number. Salmon and Guerrero should have their numbers retired. Is there a reason why the Angels' never did?

[tdawg87]

33 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

Blame that on the Angels' for not doing the right thing, IMO, awhile ago by retiring Salmon's number. Salmon and Guerrero should have their numbers retired. Is there a reason why the Angels' never did?

I think uhh, I think Vlad's number is fine not having been retired.

[Billy_Ball]

Give Castro #14.

[Blarg]

I'll take, Meaningless Worries for $500, Alex.

[nando714]

People crying over salmon 

who cares 

number isn’t retired so it’s fair game 

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

8 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I think uhh, I think Vlad's number is fine not having been retired.

Well now obviously it is lol, but it would have been a respectful gesture before Mr. Trout came along. 

[Tank]

9 hours ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

Blame that on the Angels' for not doing the right thing, IMO, awhile ago by retiring Salmon's number. Salmon and Guerrero should have their numbers retired. Is there a reason why the Angels' never did?

I agree with retiring numbers for Salmon and GA. When Trout hangs ‘em up, they should retire 27 twice. 
 

If they could retire 29, then15 & 16 are no-brainers.

[failos]

[T.G.]

 

[NorCal Halo]

He took 16, no respect for Garrett Anderson!

[Claude]

On 2/17/2020 at 5:47 AM, Blarg said:

I'll take, Meaningless Worries for $500, Alex.

Obviously wasn’t meaningless to somebody. 

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, NorCal Halo said:

He took 16, no respect for Garrett Anderson!

To be fair, hardly anyone respected Garret Anderson when he was playing.

[Troll Daddy]

24 minutes ago, Taylor said:

To be fair, hardly anyone respected Garret Anderson when he was playing.

Speak for yourself ... I have much respect for one of the best players to put on a Angel uniform. 

[Lazorko Saves]

2 hours ago, NorCal Halo said:

He took 16, no respect for Garrett Anderson!

Pfft, it was Garret who had no respect for Jack Howell...

And Tim Salmon had no respect for Kirk McCaskill.

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, NorCal Halo said:

He took 16, no respect for Garrett Anderson!

Considering Hank Conger wore it after GA...   

[ScottT]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

To be fair, hardly anyone respected Garret Anderson when he was playing.

lol

[ScottT]

I wonder what number Jo Adell will end up wearing.  Doubt he sticks with what he's wearing now.  He's usually been in the 20's.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, RBM said:

Agreed. I think Garret Anderson may be THE BEST Angel ever outside of Trout, Guerrero and Ryan. He was that good. 522 2B’s. Willie Mays had 523, Griffey JR. had 524 and Ted Williams had 525.

The fact we have a thread on an Angels baseball message board intimating Tim Salmon was better than Garret Anderson is ludicrous.

The fact Jason Castro would think he was doing the right  thing by giving  up Salmon’s #15 and wearing Andersons’s #16 is outrageous.

 

Except pretending it is Anderson’s number would be ignoring the fact that Conger and Huston Street wore it since Anderson.  

[kevinb]

Retired numbers should be for people who are hall of fame worthy. Salmon was a great Angel. But I don't know, how far down the line do we go if we retire his jersey? Do we retire Erstad? Percival? Frankie? GA? Bengie? 

Vlad should have his number retired... I am curious how they play that out with Trout wearing the number as well? Do they retire 2 number 27's? At the end of the day all it really means is people aren't wearing it and you see some plaque on a wall at the stadium with the number and their last name. So it is what it is. I am curious if the players even care that much, or if it's strictly a fan thing. 

[Stradling]

And Salmon was the superior player and it really isn’t close.  Higher WAR, OPS+.  More career HRs in 2000 less plate appearances.  

[mpcincal]

7 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Retired numbers should be for people who are hall of fame worthy. Salmon was a great Angel. But I don't know, how far down the line do we go if we retire his jersey? Do we retire Erstad? Percival? Frankie? GA? Bengie? 

Vlad should have his number retired... I am curious how they play that out with Trout wearing the number as well? Do they retire 2 number 27's? At the end of the day all it really means is people aren't wearing it and you see some plaque on a wall at the stadium with the number and their last name. So it is what it is. I am curious if the players even care that much, or if it's strictly a fan thing. 

The Yankees retired No. 8 for both Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey, so it has been done before.

[Lou]

11 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

So it is what it is. I am curious if the players even care that much, or if it's strictly a fan thing. 

They definitely care. 

[Pancake Bear]

19 minutes ago, Stradling said:

And Salmon was the superior player and it really isn’t close.  Higher WAR, OPS+.  More career HRs in 2000 less plate appearances.  

I assumed it was satire. The notion is so ludicrous: no one could actually believe Anderson is better, let alone way better than Salmon. Anderson was solid, but he wasn’t even above average outside of two career years: 2002-2003. Career wRC+ was exactly league average: 100. Salmon’s was like 140, iirc.